> When it's your time nothing will stop it.
Oh, so when you have a heart attack you won't go to the hospital then? Or when you get covid and you _can't breathe_ you'll just lay down and die? No? Of course not. Once it affects you you'll get your ass to the hospital like everyone else does. You hypocrite.
And as far as i know god would not appreciate you not working to save your own life, because life is a gift from god and its not appropriate to let it go so easily
Also,you should not test god (e.g. rely on him to save you just cause)
Theres absolutely nothing in the Bible that even implies you shouldn’t get vaccinated
Basically. I want to ask her how Jesus is going to come help her if he’s stuck to a cross. But, my comment would get lost among all the “AMEN” replies she has.
To be fair, if you asked her that, she’d just be able to point to the Bible scene of Roman soldiers mocking Jesus on the cross and tell you that you’re one of them. Their mockery was along the lines of “If you’re really God, then come down from the cross.”
I just hope they follow through with it. If they're literally nailed down somewhere at least they won't be able to wander about actively helping spread COVID
I haven't, so fair.
I attended Catholic schools most of my childhood, they drill into your head how horribly painful crucifixion is. Unless we meet someone who experienced both I guess it's impossible to say.
Imagine drowning slowly and in agony over literally weeks as you slowly have more and more technology attached to your body to try to force it to breathe as it shuts down. Never being able to catch your breath for the rest of your short life. And as you go your lungs increasingly look [worse than the worst smokers](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/are-covid-19-lungs-worse-than-smokers-lungs-covid-19-lung-photos/65-13085a3d-6516-42c5-a128-c0f2abc9d5cc).
Crucifixion may be painful, but it's damn quick by comparison.
I mean they see it as martyrdom.
Not that it even makes logical sense, nor do they practice a Christianity that in any way acts Christ-like, but they think they're martyrs.
Wait until they figure out that every god given vegetable they eat is sprayed with evil chemicals so nasty that insects literally die when they eat them
But these people don't lie naked on the ground with their mouth open waiting for God to feed and clothe them. They have a job so they get money so they can buy those things. So where is the line? How do they decide what God will take care of and what won't?
Why do they get in the car to go somewhere? Wouldn't God teleport them where they were supposed to be if he wanted them to be there? Why do they take painkillers when they get a headache? Isn't that God's plan too? How come they get to post shit on Facebook? Wouldn't God post it for them if it was supposed to be on there? I'm sure they applied for that job they have that helps them pay their bills, why didn't they trust God to give it to them?
The reason not to get vaccinated seems (gasp) completely arbitrary and very conspicuously exactly in line with their own preconceptions.
Not sure God appreciates being used as an excuse to do whatever the fuck you want.
God gave us free thinking, and full freedom. He only helps if you ask for it, and not physically. He wont move your cup, even if you pray for it. But it might make you happy.
The way I see it, God could've aided in creating the vaccine and distributing it. The vaccine *is* God's work, it *is* His way of taking care of it, and by not taking it you're ignoring all the work He did or whatever. These people have some other, probably stupider, reason to not take it, and are justifying it with religion because it can be hard to argue against.
The way I've heard it explained is like this: there's a drowning man who is approached by several boats and when they ask if he needs help, he tells them God will help him. The man dies and in heaven, he asks God she he didn't save him. God replied that he tried, but the guy turned away all the boats He sent him.
Faith is the excuse people give when they don't have good enough evidence.
You don't need faith in vaccines because we have mountains of evidence on their efficacy and why and how they work.
No faith required.
You obviously do. All the evidence in the world doesn't matter if your brain gets clogged by conspiracy theories. This isn't some "le me being rational" thing. It's matter of propaganda which scared people consume
You can’t crucify through the palms; the nail would rip through your hand. You have to drive the nail inside the gap between the ulna and radius.
Edit: correct bones
American Christians. I genuinely think people need to start addressing the American indoctrinated version of Christianity as a different branch from Genuine Christianity. They give literally everyone else such a bad name and they hurt the body of the church.
Religion doesn't have bad apples. Religion grows bad Apples.
Any religion that has anything close to an all powerful God, that interacts with our lives, is begging for people to behave irrationally. Because nothing is irrational if you believe an all powerful God wants you to do something/will reward you for it.
Believing in the existence of God is really hard. Lack of evidence and all that. But if you get past that part, the rest is easy. It's just a tiny, much smaller belief, that God wants you to do something, and suddenly it is perfectly reasonable to do *anything*.
God can eliminate COVID right now. God can cure me of anything. God can bring back my dead spouse. God can flood the Earth, fix climate change, everything. Anything.
Believing God wants me to not get vaccinated is a million times easier than believing God exists. And no amount of contradictory evidence would sway me. God's opinion is more important than anything else. Science is nothing to God. The law is nothing to God.
If I believe in God, ANYTHING is reasonable if it's what God wants us to do.
28% of Americans believe that God talks to them, in some way or another.
That's *insane*. That's a huge number of people... Who believe anything is okay if God wants them to do it, and they believe God is talking to them.
Of course they are going to do insane and irrational stuff. Because that's what any reasonable religious person would do when God tells them to.
You’re exactly right. People who follow instructions from the voices they hear, in my experience, are typically suffering from schizophrenia or are actively using some sort of unmonitored hallucinogen.
That's really not it. You don't need God to have morals or do good things... The argument shows that if you believe in God, there are high chances you will do a lot of irrational things such as not doing any covid prevention methods because "God will protect me, so I don't need all of these stuff". Can you see how it harms people if everyone start believing that God will protect them from a disease even if they don't take preventative measures?
Atheism do grow bad apples sure, but you don't need God to have morals. You just need to be a decent human being who have empathy towards other people to have morals and do good things. If God is the only thing that keeps you from gunning down people, I gotta ask, why the hell are you wanting to gun down people in the first place.
Yeah, but the same is true with philosophical positions. This problem isn’t a religion thing; it’s a belief thing, and everyone has their beliefs. Religion just makes it easier to commit violence due to the fact that it’s incredibly easy to attach random meta ethical claims to ancient religious texts.
But religion is a unique version of belief: it comes prepackaged. You don't have to think about your opinion, you don't have to worry about right and wrong, just do as you're told and you're good.
People who don't follow a religion have to develop their own beliefs. Often that means they will also be able to articulate *why* they have a belief, instead of having to point to a holy text and say 'some ancient goat farmer told me'.
"everything in the book is true"
How do you know?
"Because it's god's word"
How do you know?
"Because it's written in the book that it's god's word"
That's basically the entire religious argument in a nutshell.
The hate is kind of awesome. I'm getting downvoted either because people are too dense to see the sarcasm, or because they actually think Jesus saves. And I get how they can be confused. I mean 5 million died of one bug, so clearly Jesus saves. It's just too bad people's grandparents weren't important enough for Jesus to save them from suffering slow strangulation and organ failure.
It's almost as if Jesus cares more for people that have money, like 45. Very US Christian mentality. Help the poor. I mean the members of my church, clearly. I don't want the actual poor doing well, and particularly not in my neighborhood. It's a disgusting mentality.
Now what do you mean by that, like, what should people believe then? If they there is 'o higher power and the world is the world and nothing more, then they're atheist, but if they believe in a higher power, they belong to a religion..
Ah the good old science vs religion. Was everything created or did we explode from complete nothingness. Is there 176 different genders and men can get pregnant or is there 2 genders and men can't. Years ago you could have believed in both. Not in today's day and age though .
Gods voice on earth the pope says to get the vaccine. Sounds more like you are picking and choosing what you want in your religion and not actually listening to what is said.
Most of Mosaic law is about hygiene - including social distancing and quarantines, which are why lepers were supposed to self-isolate and announce to people that they were contagious.
Ah yes. Trust a book that was written when documentation was damn near non-existent vs research that's been meticulously crafted over centuries while people can learn and build off of what is done by others.
The Catholic Church has been clear on this: it's 100% morally acceptable to get vaccinated. There is no Biblical reason that we can't get the vaccination. People who are aggressively anti vaccine aren't trying to follow the Bible or be good Christians, they're playing politics and ultimately harming the public health.
[Christians when you nail them to a cross after they said they rather be crucified than given a vaccination](https://tenor.com/view/boss-baby-cry-shout-scream-gif-17966808)
No lie: My aunt refused medical treatment for something because she believed God would heal her if he wanted to. Or not.
I guess God decided not to heal her. She died not long after that decision.
This is a certain kind of crazy that I really don't understand.
> When it's your time nothing will stop it. Oh, so when you have a heart attack you won't go to the hospital then? Or when you get covid and you _can't breathe_ you'll just lay down and die? No? Of course not. Once it affects you you'll get your ass to the hospital like everyone else does. You hypocrite.
Yeah, plus you'll get all the prayer warriors going to petition to God/Jesus on your behalf to let you live.
And as far as i know god would not appreciate you not working to save your own life, because life is a gift from god and its not appropriate to let it go so easily
Also,you should not test god (e.g. rely on him to save you just cause) Theres absolutely nothing in the Bible that even implies you shouldn’t get vaccinated
So they'd rather be crucified than vaccinated.
Basically. I want to ask her how Jesus is going to come help her if he’s stuck to a cross. But, my comment would get lost among all the “AMEN” replies she has.
To be fair, if you asked her that, she’d just be able to point to the Bible scene of Roman soldiers mocking Jesus on the cross and tell you that you’re one of them. Their mockery was along the lines of “If you’re really God, then come down from the cross.”
Jesus would be vaccinated.
If it could help the general public he would have done anything. Man literally died for people. He Definitly would have been vaccinated.
He signally failed to do so and died as a result. Romans 1 - 0 Jewish Mystic
To be faaaaaaaiiiiirrrrrr! - Wayne
Shit like this is completely performative, "Look how pious I am, sinner!" People like just twist religions to fit beliefs they already have.
"the Bible says to stone the gays", says Karen, who lost her virginity before marriage.
Karen, 30, says to her 17 yr old kid
Ah, forgot to include that part. Thanks
I'm pretty sure the Bible specifically says you shouldn't do that
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Don't put words in people's mouths.
Ok, dicks it is then!
Are you admitting you are one
Are you admitting you want it?
Anything that small wouldn't make a good meal.
Wtf
In the name of Jesus take my downvote
Jesus is irrelevant he's been dead for 2000 years Religion is bad
Yeah but he rose from the dead
Yeah, and its gotta be true because someone wrote it in a book.
You misspelled it. Fauci is God.
I just hope they follow through with it. If they're literally nailed down somewhere at least they won't be able to wander about actively helping spread COVID
Well, dying of COVID doesn’t sound much better than crucifixion
Lol, I'd imagine the pain levels differ
COVID is a pretty horrible way to die. Have you ever seen what the lungs of deceased Covid patients look like? It’s bad
I haven't, so fair. I attended Catholic schools most of my childhood, they drill into your head how horribly painful crucifixion is. Unless we meet someone who experienced both I guess it's impossible to say.
It IS painful. The strain placed on your muscles in enormous
Imagine drowning slowly and in agony over literally weeks as you slowly have more and more technology attached to your body to try to force it to breathe as it shuts down. Never being able to catch your breath for the rest of your short life. And as you go your lungs increasingly look [worse than the worst smokers](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/are-covid-19-lungs-worse-than-smokers-lungs-covid-19-lung-photos/65-13085a3d-6516-42c5-a128-c0f2abc9d5cc). Crucifixion may be painful, but it's damn quick by comparison.
I'm sure dying of asphyxiation from dangling on a cross is far far worse
No, they just got their pictures mixed up. They meant have their hand impaled by a rusty nail then given a tetanus shot just to be safe.
I accept this headcanon, lol
Wait why should we put faith in carpentry? was my initial reaction.
Fucking rather have a railroad spike through their hands than a syringe in the shoulder, talk about being dedicated to lockdowns and mask mandates.
Persecution fetish.
Too bad because they definitely getting tetanus
Tetanus. They'd rather have tetanus, than be vaccinated.
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Yeah but they won’t do it tho
I mean they see it as martyrdom. Not that it even makes logical sense, nor do they practice a Christianity that in any way acts Christ-like, but they think they're martyrs.
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Damn dude chill
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Stop üt
Can't stop Üt, man. He coming.
What is iit?! iit’s iit!
Nice Faith No More reference!
This meme is a low-key advertisement for the IIT (Indian Institutes of Technology).
Nothing will stop YEET!!!
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**IIT**
üt
People like that also take Viagra to solve their god given impotence.
When it’s time to have a soft penis, it’s time. Don’t question god.
He has risen.
But *he* has not
Or wear glasses because having slightly blurry vision is just too inconvenient for them.
Wait until they figure out that every god given vegetable they eat is sprayed with evil chemicals so nasty that insects literally die when they eat them
But these people don't lie naked on the ground with their mouth open waiting for God to feed and clothe them. They have a job so they get money so they can buy those things. So where is the line? How do they decide what God will take care of and what won't? Why do they get in the car to go somewhere? Wouldn't God teleport them where they were supposed to be if he wanted them to be there? Why do they take painkillers when they get a headache? Isn't that God's plan too? How come they get to post shit on Facebook? Wouldn't God post it for them if it was supposed to be on there? I'm sure they applied for that job they have that helps them pay their bills, why didn't they trust God to give it to them? The reason not to get vaccinated seems (gasp) completely arbitrary and very conspicuously exactly in line with their own preconceptions. Not sure God appreciates being used as an excuse to do whatever the fuck you want.
God gave us free thinking, and full freedom. He only helps if you ask for it, and not physically. He wont move your cup, even if you pray for it. But it might make you happy.
The way I see it, God could've aided in creating the vaccine and distributing it. The vaccine *is* God's work, it *is* His way of taking care of it, and by not taking it you're ignoring all the work He did or whatever. These people have some other, probably stupider, reason to not take it, and are justifying it with religion because it can be hard to argue against.
The way I've heard it explained is like this: there's a drowning man who is approached by several boats and when they ask if he needs help, he tells them God will help him. The man dies and in heaven, he asks God she he didn't save him. God replied that he tried, but the guy turned away all the boats He sent him.
I just don’t feel like vaccinating myself bro
I’ll keep my faith in TETANUS.
TINNITUS* EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lock jaw is God's way of rewarding the faithful.
Hehe you said anus.
Hehehehe anus.
"Did you guys hear a word I said?" *"Uhh, yeah. Anus."*
How about faith in both?
Based
Based on what exactly?
Based on faith
Faith is the excuse people give when they don't have good enough evidence. You don't need faith in vaccines because we have mountains of evidence on their efficacy and why and how they work. No faith required.
You obviously do. All the evidence in the world doesn't matter if your brain gets clogged by conspiracy theories. This isn't some "le me being rational" thing. It's matter of propaganda which scared people consume
Imma have faith in both
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So faith In neither?
The two aren’t mutually exclusive, dude.
I myself am a "all the help I can get type" of guy.
I don’t think most Christian’s like these people
We don't
Reasonable religious people: "those people kinda suck" Reasonable irreligious people: "yup. For sure."
You can’t crucify through the palms; the nail would rip through your hand. You have to drive the nail inside the gap between the ulna and radius. Edit: correct bones
Ulna and radius, fibula is a bone in your leg
You’re the first one to mention that… it took two hours for somebody to notice! Haha
Haha
This guy crucifies.
Must have experience
Tbh that was my fitst thought on seeing the OP. The lord forgives you for for confusing fibula w. radius
Thank god i quitted FB, I did not delete it, Iforgot my password, and it doesn’t bother me.
I deleted the app months ago, today I logged in on my browser and remembered why I removed it.
I also love sticking golf ball sized holes in my palms with dirty crucifixion nails
American Christians. I genuinely think people need to start addressing the American indoctrinated version of Christianity as a different branch from Genuine Christianity. They give literally everyone else such a bad name and they hurt the body of the church.
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Jesus looks like he’s on steroids what’s the issue
God isn’t here to save you now, Karen.
Are those two "i"-s, or a single "ü"?
Well, I don't want to get Coronavirus. Better jam a fucking railroad spike into my hand.
Yeahh all religions have a few bad apples like this but trust me most of us aren't like that
Religion doesn't have bad apples. Religion grows bad Apples. Any religion that has anything close to an all powerful God, that interacts with our lives, is begging for people to behave irrationally. Because nothing is irrational if you believe an all powerful God wants you to do something/will reward you for it. Believing in the existence of God is really hard. Lack of evidence and all that. But if you get past that part, the rest is easy. It's just a tiny, much smaller belief, that God wants you to do something, and suddenly it is perfectly reasonable to do *anything*. God can eliminate COVID right now. God can cure me of anything. God can bring back my dead spouse. God can flood the Earth, fix climate change, everything. Anything. Believing God wants me to not get vaccinated is a million times easier than believing God exists. And no amount of contradictory evidence would sway me. God's opinion is more important than anything else. Science is nothing to God. The law is nothing to God. If I believe in God, ANYTHING is reasonable if it's what God wants us to do. 28% of Americans believe that God talks to them, in some way or another. That's *insane*. That's a huge number of people... Who believe anything is okay if God wants them to do it, and they believe God is talking to them. Of course they are going to do insane and irrational stuff. Because that's what any reasonable religious person would do when God tells them to.
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That makes me scared.
To quote Perturabo, Primarch of the Iron Warriors “God is cringe”
You’re exactly right. People who follow instructions from the voices they hear, in my experience, are typically suffering from schizophrenia or are actively using some sort of unmonitored hallucinogen.
"Atheism grows bad apples. They don't believe in any God and therefore must have no morals." That's the same argument as yours.
That's really not it. You don't need God to have morals or do good things... The argument shows that if you believe in God, there are high chances you will do a lot of irrational things such as not doing any covid prevention methods because "God will protect me, so I don't need all of these stuff". Can you see how it harms people if everyone start believing that God will protect them from a disease even if they don't take preventative measures? Atheism do grow bad apples sure, but you don't need God to have morals. You just need to be a decent human being who have empathy towards other people to have morals and do good things. If God is the only thing that keeps you from gunning down people, I gotta ask, why the hell are you wanting to gun down people in the first place.
Atheists don't believe in magic
Yeah, but the same is true with philosophical positions. This problem isn’t a religion thing; it’s a belief thing, and everyone has their beliefs. Religion just makes it easier to commit violence due to the fact that it’s incredibly easy to attach random meta ethical claims to ancient religious texts.
But religion is a unique version of belief: it comes prepackaged. You don't have to think about your opinion, you don't have to worry about right and wrong, just do as you're told and you're good. People who don't follow a religion have to develop their own beliefs. Often that means they will also be able to articulate *why* they have a belief, instead of having to point to a holy text and say 'some ancient goat farmer told me'.
"everything in the book is true" How do you know? "Because it's god's word" How do you know? "Because it's written in the book that it's god's word" That's basically the entire religious argument in a nutshell.
r/TheRightCantMeme
Trust in God and tie up your horse -some proverb or something I think In this context it would be trust in God and get vaxxed
Why eat or drink? If it's your time to go, so be it. Stand in a grey room and wait to die.
As a Christian myself I’m so sorry lol. This shit is fucking cringe lol
Did they say “üt” or “iit”?
Religion has always scar(r)ed everyone
I believe in heroin
I put my faith in both
🤢🤮 religious people make me sick
Why not both?
Aahh the marveles religion...
as a very devout christian.... i'll take both .. 😧
Me too!
Okay, fine we will give you the vaccine in comically oversized needless.
Ah yes, Science v Jesus. Interesting match up, but they’re in much, much different weight classes
Faith has done so much to extend the length of people's lives and curb infant mortality.
Come on guys, this is obvious sarcasm.
The hate is kind of awesome. I'm getting downvoted either because people are too dense to see the sarcasm, or because they actually think Jesus saves. And I get how they can be confused. I mean 5 million died of one bug, so clearly Jesus saves. It's just too bad people's grandparents weren't important enough for Jesus to save them from suffering slow strangulation and organ failure. It's almost as if Jesus cares more for people that have money, like 45. Very US Christian mentality. Help the poor. I mean the members of my church, clearly. I don't want the actual poor doing well, and particularly not in my neighborhood. It's a disgusting mentality.
Religion is a cancer to society and theism is a mental disease
Now what do you mean by that, like, what should people believe then? If they there is 'o higher power and the world is the world and nothing more, then they're atheist, but if they believe in a higher power, they belong to a religion..
Sorry I can’t decipher your incoherent rambling
Do you think when boomers die a huge chunk of these kind of people will too? I dont condone boomer genocide, genuine question
iit
Ah yes I shall stab myself with a nail to save myself from every problem in my life
This type of stuff reminds me of this family guy clip https://youtu.be/12XMqFOtGLg
'maKiNg fuN oF rElIgIon iS fUn'
This would be good if it was scientific consensus (bottom) vs heterodox science (top)
All hail nail hand
Weren’t the nails in his wrists?
What about your tetanus shot
You put your faith in this; I put my faith in this. We are not the same.
They aren’t mutually exclusive!
I have no idea what Jesus has to do with anti vax but okay
SLPT: Crucify yourself to avoid disease.
# i i t
This is stupid, vaccines are not a bad thing
r/hermancainaward
They should stop taking meds, fighting cancer, and other health measures, because when it’s your time nothing will stop it.
But they don’t put their faith in either…
If you survive this second one, you’ll surely need a tetanus shot or you’ll die from that.
All I can imagine is dear ol’dad saying “way to go idiot, you split the board. Well pull out the nail and grab another”.
Ah the good old science vs religion. Was everything created or did we explode from complete nothingness. Is there 176 different genders and men can get pregnant or is there 2 genders and men can't. Years ago you could have believed in both. Not in today's day and age though .
Gods voice on earth the pope says to get the vaccine. Sounds more like you are picking and choosing what you want in your religion and not actually listening to what is said.
I'd much rather put my faith in something that is proved to work. Also if hell is real, people like this probably go there
Yea, it's scary people like this are allowed in government
Like your president
Most of Mosaic law is about hygiene - including social distancing and quarantines, which are why lepers were supposed to self-isolate and announce to people that they were contagious.
Isn't this a repost
Wait, no, I think they may have found an actual solution for anti-vaxxers
Gotta love misspelling "it"
Bunch of fucking idiots, and yes that makes them scary
You'll keep your faith in an incredibly horrible and cruel way of torturing someone to death? That's really fucked.
Ah yes. Trust a book that was written when documentation was damn near non-existent vs research that's been meticulously crafted over centuries while people can learn and build off of what is done by others.
Nothing will stop Illinois Institute of Technology
Well now you need a tetanus shot...
iit
The two are apparently mutually exclusive
The Catholic Church has been clear on this: it's 100% morally acceptable to get vaccinated. There is no Biblical reason that we can't get the vaccination. People who are aggressively anti vaccine aren't trying to follow the Bible or be good Christians, they're playing politics and ultimately harming the public health.
Bruh
Nothing will stop the crucifixion? Hot take
The last word lmfao, "*iit*" Like Stretchyyy
[Christians when you nail them to a cross after they said they rather be crucified than given a vaccination](https://tenor.com/view/boss-baby-cry-shout-scream-gif-17966808)
Didn't the nail literally stop him though
Hot take: Jesus is a wayward sidhe, magically powerful and weak against iron.
No lie: My aunt refused medical treatment for something because she believed God would heal her if he wanted to. Or not. I guess God decided not to heal her. She died not long after that decision. This is a certain kind of crazy that I really don't understand.