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BalanceThis1

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Lochlanist

Stopped braai'ng, started barbecue. Flag is on strike.


Business-Gas-3988

Its because the Aussies are down under so you can see it the right way around Mate.


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saffer_zn

Yebo gogo


YeboMate

oƃoƃ oqǝ⅄


crem3r

![gif](giphy|3oEduKVQdG4c0JVPSo|downsized)


MittonMan

We're in the same hemisphere man. We're just as upside down as they are!


Rndrgnvlk

Someone finally said it!!!


ruggal9219

Am in Australia, can confirm its the right way up.


crf865

I understand most of those words, but not in that order.


p_turbo

Braai is like barbecue, but for civilized people.


m4kush_

Lol what???????


p_turbo

You heard me ![gif](giphy|pSauCNBp1DcOY)


MdJojm_

As a South African who no longer lives in South Africa I disagree a BBQ is a braii for those who don't have good taste in meat.


Flat_Satisfaction428

🤣🤣🤣 moments before the black label enters the room


What_Is_It_All_For

someone watched too much Sam Harris videos


antonivs

Ja can confirm - ek is baie civilized


YeboMate

Naaa mate, pretty sure it’s “stopped braai’ing, and started a barbie”


Kupfakura

Barbecue smokers are the best


jebanisa

Expat forgot which way is up.


p_turbo

Well he is down under ![gif](giphy|q2liPHzYo82zK9Tb0X|downsized)


_gmmaann_

Didn’t know there was a stranger things DLC. I was not pleased when I had to play it through without knowledge of what it was


Fire_Gaming_UAV

The only flag-based political statement a South African would make is putting a sticker of the apartheid-era flag. More than likely this is a joke about Australia being "upside down" or just a dumbass that stuck it wrong without looking.


SailsTacks

The whole joke about being upside down is the fact that Australia is in the southern hemisphere. South Africa is also well within the southern hemisphere.


Fire_Gaming_UAV

Hey I didn't say "joke about upside down" and "probably some dumbass" were mutually exclusive things 😂


SailsTacks

That’s a valid point.


antonivs

> Well within I mean, it's the closest part of the African continent to Antarctica - hard to get any more within the southern hemisphere than that.


Bloody_Insane

A lot of people also don't know what an upside down flag means


PotatokingXII

(: ˙ʎɹoǝɥʇ uʍop ǝpᴉsdn ǝɥʇ ǝʞᴉl ǝʇᴉnb I


MadLadThatsATadRad

Do i downvote this comment to make it count as upvote?


Vonnybon

Lol


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FA1L_STaR

What?


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langman_69

I feel like a lot of people are ignoring it as well because of things like blm. And no one is really making noise about it either


HuntingSmiths

I think it's a down-under thing.


crf865

Hey I'm probably further North than you.


HuntingSmiths

That depends, I live in McDowall, Brisbane.


crf865

Shit, nah I'm down under there.


KwaadNaasBotha

No one does this as a political statement.


Synthwave11_

When a flag is upside down it represents the nations is in distress, which I'm sure an expat would do.


Naughty_Funkle_1992

Yeah, I’ve seen quite a few cars in JHB with the same. Sticker flag upside down.


theycallmethewizzard

That person’s car is in a similar state of distress


spiggerish

I feel like if you’re a South African emigrant and you left the country because you think it’s in distress, then you wouldn’t fly the flag? You’d be happy to be gone, and wouldn’t want to connect yourself to it? I could be wrong though.


Synthwave11_

I'm sure there are many people who don't live in South Africa and are patriotic to the extent of having a sticker, but would also feel regret for their home country and how it's being run I to the ground. If I left South Africa I too might do that.


eenbal

Some peoples choice to leave is out of their control.....


spiggerish

In that case, they wouldn’t be posting the flag in distress. As they probably didn’t want to leave.


eenbal

They are in distress.......


spiggerish

The flag is to represent a country in distress. Not an individual though?


eenbal

https://jimmygreen.com/news/post/46-what-does-an-upside-down-flag-represent Lazy Google. But means vessel in distress. Could be interpreted both ways. My point was that even if you leave, you can still believe the country to be in distress, want to help it etc.


crf865

Okay cool. It's becoming common here among "Plandemic" type fuckwits.


BlakeSA

Either ignorance (I've seen lots of flags upside down just because people assume sky = blue = up) or a tongue in cheek dad joke about him being an SA expat that's "down under". I doubt it's a political statement. In SA when right-wingers want to make a political statement they either use the old national flag or the Transvaal Vierkleur flag.


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BlakeSA

Sometimes, but not always. The Venn diagram between white farmers and right-wing, anti-government, anti-vaxx groups are pretty intertwined in many cases.


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BlakeSA

Show me a black farmer with a Vierkleur sticker on their bakkie and I will happily change my statement. A substantial portion of the farming community in South Africa (which is overwhelmingly white due to historical reasons) are firmly on the American media and social media pipeline. As a result they have adopted a similar anti-government, anti-vaccine bent and are also inclined to put anti-government symbols on their cars. In the States this is done with an upside down flag indicating "a country in distress" which is why OP asked the question regarding the upside down SA flag in Australia which has a population of disgruntled SA expats. In SA that is typically done by using a historical flag like the old national flag or the Vierkleur in the same way as some Americans would use the confederate battle flag. The upside down SA flag as a political statement is not common in my experience. I know your kneejerk reaction is to jump to the defense of all white farmers thinking that I am somehow accusing them of something, but if that is the case I suggest you work on your comprehension skills as my comment is significantly more nuanced than that.


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DracotheInfidel

To put it politely you don't know shit, do some research and then you'll see that this country is absolutely f*cked- and we're on a fast track to civil war.


BlakeSA

Did I disagree with that position anywhere in my posts? Feel free to point it out if you think I did.


Spongenbobs

Why don't you point out the errors in their comments with this research of yours?


Novuake

Im sorry they moved to Aus my man. But were glad to be rid of that kind.


RidderSport

If you see an upside-down German flag, you have most likely found someone that believes Germany is not a rightful state and that either the Empire or the 3rd Reich should be in power. In very rare case even the HRE


qisjfjxisijwhejfifj

Shane!


notaloneinrsa

He's in Australia. Obviously the flag is gonna be upside down.


pilierdroit

Coming from Perth, it’s weird to see a South African flag without a Natal Sharks sticker right next to it.


DracotheInfidel

That's depending which province your from, having a Sharks sticker in GP is sacrilege and vice versa for a blue bulls sticker in KZN


pilierdroit

I guess it speaks to saffa immigration trends to Perth


Both_Street_7657

He is down under mate Its the right way up from over here


SkullDude94

Its a joke about Australia being upside down. The flag is turned 180°. So its the correct way vertically AND horizontally. If it was accident/mistake it would be wrong way for one of the two and not both. :)


Representative-Dirt2

No, because as fellow Southern-Hemispherians, we are just as 'upside down' as Oz is so it wouldn't be funny. Everyone in the southern hemisphere knows which way is up for us.


SkullDude94

Its an internet meme. A joke. Nothing scientific about it. https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/upside-down-australia


SkullDude94

Also even though we fellow “Southern-Hemispherians”. The joke wont work in other southern hemisphere countries. Its just never have been as strongly associated as Australia. And also not funny for people that take it quite literally… :)


btwnastonknahardplce

This should be upvoted to the top comment.


crf865

Out of curiosity, how would he have mounted it correctly vertically, but not horizontally) or vice versa)?


iamthemoustache

Definitely an idiot


Nuotatore

On the contrary to popular belief, there's no "correct" orientation of country flags: it should be determined by the position relative to its pole. Conventionally, the pole is assumed to lie on the left side, and the flag to wave rightwards but for example, on the right side of a car, of an aircraft and so on, the pole side should be placed at the right i.e. the windward side. So maybe (although I myself doubt it), the owner of this car considered the right edge of the back of his car to be still nominally affected by the air stream and therefore, set the flag accordingly.


crf865

Interesting. Guess it works for some flags more than others.


Nuotatore

You're totally right: I'm not Southafrican and was only considering the black triangle to consider orientation but of course, here top and bottom are also crucial so, disregard my useless statement (Italian flag has not such issue).


mostly_dips

Nah, if youve seen it in Brisbane it is the rightway up. Australia is upside down.


Novuake

So is SA by the same logic. Southern Hemi and all that.


Due-Ad-4091

I’ve seen this among expats. I think it’s just confusion


WrightJnr

I don’t think that cars been washed since the day the sticker was put on.


Virtual_Carpenter659

It only looks like its upside down because its in Aus, duh.


Onb3SkaAmD

Well they are in the land of down unda


Kent-Weed

Lmao he's got it flipped because he's in Australia that's hilarious


RaiderML

It's in Australia and because Australia is upside down the flag is actually right side up


Tammytalkstoomuch

A real example of using the flag for a political statement is when you bake your Afrikaans friend a cake with the SA flag on it and their friends suggest the cake would be better with the old flag 😬


AllUserNamesTaken01

name checks out


RelationshipSad2300

Nah....he's just stupid.


JuliusSMalema

Sies that Ghia is filthy, do you guys not have soap down there?


Local-Chart

Too much dust, no point cleaning it since it'll be dirty the next week


Flat_Satisfaction428

We call him a Dom naai. 😂


Chickenmonster8505

It may be possible that these expats emigrated pre-1994, so may not know the flag orientation. 😅 I remember several older individuals struggling to remember the placement of blue/red on the flag (early 2000s)


Stormjaerish

Joke about a saffer being down under


Any_Exercise578

Lets us just expect he is a spanner


0xNick

The flag isn’t upside down. He is.


ProfVerstrooid

They may have placed the sticker the right way around from the inside, and you're just seeing its mirrored image from the outside.


crf865

The back side of stickers are white though right?


puddaphut

Embarrassing that a large proportion of the population believe the blue bit is the sky, and hence it’s on top. So no great statement here, other than “I am a bit of a dumbass”.


crf865

To be fair that's really what every bumper sticker say.


puddaphut

“Tell me you’re a dumbass without telling me you’re a dumbass”


kingtyrone-za

Idiot.


LAiglon144

Lately I've been driving around Cape Town and keep seeing hotels or government institutions with their flags upside down. When I pointed it out to the lady at the National Library, she told me it was the right way up and the blue stood for the sea. Who am I to argue with that logic 🤷


Boggie135

I thought Red was at the top and blue was for the sea?


[deleted]

South Africans in South Africa don't call themselves saffers


crf865

Okay, thanks. I'm an Australian in Australia, though, and often see it used in r/rugbyunion.


mookymix

The flag is the right way up. It's just that Australia is at the bottom of the world, so it looks upside down from here


Raz0r1986

So the same hemisphere as South Africa? 🤷


mookymix

South Africa isn't the land down under. It's all very technical.


Lem1618

It's the same kind of people that use the term saffa. Siessa man saffa sounds gagga.


crf865

I see South Africans using it regularly in r/rugbyunion, so thought I was in the clear. Gagga?


Prielknaap

I approve your use of Saffa.


Lem1618

Gagga, siessa is what we say to little kids when they pick up or try and eat something dirty. It's similar to gross.


BraxForAll

It's the same kind of people that use the term *gagga*. Siessa man *gagga* sounds ***kak***. /s


Ill_Evan42

Definitely a silly billy. Everyone knows that the commies won, so red on top always.


ShaveMyNipps

I wish


other-women

Probably some Bogan who used to live in the east rand.


Boggie135

Hehe


LawAndRugby

Idiot expat


Synthwave11_

This question is in such bad faith calling ex-pats idiots for this behavior, It is common knowledge that an upside flag is a statement that the country is in distress. Something an Expat would understandably do.


BraxForAll

It is not common knowledge. It is part of the U.S. flag code so only applicable to the American flag. It would make zero sense for it a general rule since a lot of countries have symmetrical flags, see Botswana, Jamaica, Switzerland, etc.


Synthwave11_

🗿 since when does something the Americans do make it exclusively American ? And who said it's not applicable to other flags No one said it's an international standard, It's just a political statement, And the South African flag is not symmetric, it is more than reasonable to connect the dots... You are not very smart 😒


Synthwave11_

Additionally if you actually did your research, you would know it's not exclusive to the USA, because it's has its roots in Naval history, The significance of an inverted flag does vary around the world, with some counting it as a legitimate SOS signal. " For hundreds of years, inverted flags have been harnessed as a signal of distress. Hoisting the ensign upside-down was also a potentially covert way in which sailors might share that their ship had been taken by hostile forces and was being manoeuvred nefariously " So maybe it's not common sense for the 30%s of South Africa, but that not my problem.


Synthwave11_

Additionally some resources that back my claims up, that is common sense, not exclusive to the USA, and can apply to the South African flag, especially in a statement. "This probably goes without saying, but a nation’s flag being displayed upside down is usually a sign of distress." [1](https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/offbeat/south-african-flag-display-laws/amp/) [2](https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/flag-rules-were-all-upside-down-486035) [3](https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/f/Flag_of_South_Africa.htm)


crf865

So.. political statement..?


Synthwave11_

It should have been obvious....


crf865

Maybe, but looks like you're in the minority who think so.


jolcognoscenti

Because most of us would've perceived using the old flag as the real political statement.


Synthwave11_

Unfortunately im not surprised, common sense is a reality in South Africa,


crf865

Rarity*?


Synthwave11_

Thank you 🍻


geeceeza

Even people.in south africa get it wrong so I'd say your sentiment may be wrong. That being said it also comes.down to the design. If it was less symmetrical it'd be a no brainer


Cute_Hold_1629

CHIA


Murky-Fox-200

Its just because they’re down under


HenRob_6327

Makes sense. It IS down-under.


nottherealneal

That poor car needs a wash


byjono

maybe it’s because of the jokes that Australia is low down on the globe everything is upside down


Prielknaap

It does mean distress, although the common folk just often hang our flag upside down by mistake. I don't think this is a mistake because to stick this upside down they would also have to have the Chevron on the wrong side, which is very unlikely. Not all South African Emigrants share the same values over what our country is and should be.


Britz10

If that's the case, they probably aren't using that flag, in the same way some people call themselves Rhodesian to this day


kryptonq

Why would you call them an idiot?


crf865

Because children know which way up the flag goes, I figured it was a statement or stupidity.


justthegrimm

Paying homage to our politics, economy and so forth


Boggie135

Upside down and backwards? That’s just wrong


bortj1

Look normal to me? Heard everything in Australia is upside down


Timmeh1020

Maybe it's because it is in Australia where other countries typically depict things are upside down there?


WISE_MAN_FROM_mars

I think its a joke since you know...Straya is upside-down


SirDamatoIII

Your upside down mate. On the other side it’s right side up.


LifeFictionWorldALie

Probably nothing


itsshortforVictor

Honestly, I’d give them the benefit of the doubt. The flag is on the right hand side of the car and MAYBE they wanted the “arrow” to point to the center line of the car for symmetry.


Various_Ad_8753

If it is a political statement I couldn’t agree more. The country is fucked.


Hellbender13

Well he is down under so it’s the right way up


kitsuwastaken

I think this guy sticked it from inside so it's seen like that from the outside...


crf865

But the back side of stickers are white, and I think if we were looking at it through the dirty glass we would know.


ZARbarians

Most reasonable answer? Just a mistake. It's not like you can fix a sticker. Might even have stuck it the right way round when the boot was open.


alishaheed

That Ford Territory looks well past its best.


beea91

Lol idiot ex-pat. Dude, I get that shit confused all the time. As long as we have the colours down, I don’t think anyone really minds 👀


kamil_kas

Find 11 , you’re in the upside down


FullAir4341

It's illegal


eenbal

Flying a flag upside down is the international signal for distress, require assistance..... They know what they are doing.....


datsun1978

Confused


Zuluboi

Eeeedjit


alen565

this guy is from Australia


deathcounter69

well since he's in aus, everything is upside down, right?😂


Sparki6900

If a countries flag is upside down, it indicates a citizen of that country is in distress in that area and needs assistance


crf865

This seems to be the third most popular answer, after, 'Australia is upsidedown lol' and 'idiot'. Do you really think he placed it like that, in distress, as a request for assistance?


Spongenbobs

Yes, but not like SOS level of distress, more like we miss the good old days kind of distress.


Katrin_underwhearer

They’re living down under


Katrin_underwhearer

So aggressive OP


crf865

Well I figured children know which way up it goes, so it's a statement or stupidly.


JoeSolo76

Of course! Put the flag down, flip it and reverse it!


Feeling-Most9618

this is an obscure reference but they want you to go on a long ass trek across the desert to get more military personnel and child psychology books


crf865

r/woosh thyself


nic777

Immigrant*


crf865

How can you tell?


rugbyjukes

Couldn’t imagine why a South African expat would have a reason to make a political stand. I mean it’s been at least 30 years since government sponsored segregation was eliminated. Surely that’s long enough.


Maleficent-Suit-7086

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. Hanlon’s razor


FrankBridges

For everyone saying "it's upside down because we're in the southern hemisphere".... Guess which hemisphere South Africa is in?


crf865

Yeah I'm shocked how many identical comments there are. I thought the joke was only popular with Americans.


boesman

I prefer it vertically to show that I consider it as offensive as Y-front underpants.


crf865

Now THAT'S a political statement


BraxForAll

Have you seen [what we South Africans do with our flag?](https://v.redd.it/zu9qt17tmhz71)


Representative-Dirt2

I think whoever stuck the sticker doesn't know the flag pole is always considered to be on the left. An exception to this is the flag on the American Army uniform.


Nuotatore

Actually, not on a moving vehicle, where the pole is assumed to stay at the front. Maybe the owner assumed the airstream to envelope the rear edges of the car. EDIT Never mind, was not considering the top and bottom colours, since that is not a factor with my national flag but clearly is on the Southafrican instead.


thelunararmy

Coriolis effect


NikNakMuay

It can be a sign of political distress though


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Constant_Substance80

Majority of our expats are idiots. They don't know left from right.


UseStatus8727

SA is going in the opposite direction of what the ANC promised. Failed state, hence the reverse flag.