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The_Bjorn_Ultimatum

I can understand the thought processes behind all the comments here except for the people saying the government is trying to steal from you. Come on people. The government doesn't need to round you up and put you on a train to steal from you. They can do it without ever even seeing you face to face.


chillychili

Maybe they wanted to spice it up a bit


mister-fancypants-

government stealing from me *in the flesh??* oh hell yea


Levans1206

kinky


spicychickenICS

I mean, a huge part of Japanese internment in WWII was to give their farmland in California to large agricultural companies, obviously under the guise of claiming their allegiance couldn’t be trusted. So there is precedence for the government relocating people to take their land.


The_Bjorn_Ultimatum

Yeah, I suppose land would be about the one case. Good thought.


Nuclear_Reserve259

They already steal from us


CX-97

Depends heavily on the political situation


dailycnn

Yes, is this a broad announcement made via multiple sources of media and validated by independent press/sources? Is there a reasonable expectation of threat? Is, for example, the local national guard which consists of local citizens participating and supporting the process? What does international media say? etc.. ​ I realize the poll needs to be simplitic but the decision depends upon confidence and what other options exist.


CX-97

Agreed


knightw0lf55

I would add it would depend on who is all being rounded up. If the whole area regardless of race, creed and economic standing, probably fine.


TAPriceCTR

What if someone who publicly preaches population reduction is directly involved in the transportation? A misanthrope doesn't need to discriminate to have mal intent.


Lolylol37

Agree


Mr-Plutonium

Let’s say the political situation is an angry mustached man. Thoughts?


Darkness_229227

Oh yea, let’s also say there are cool spiny symbols tilted forty-five degrees everywhere on that train and people are going into cattle cars.


PseudoDaniel

I think OP is assuming the current situation in your country. Say you’re from the US, I’d go for option 1 surely.


CX-97

I am from the U.S. my decision would also probably depend on a lot of other factors. For example, if they refuse to explain what the threat is. I live in Louisiana, so a mass evacuation would be anything but unheard of, but traditionally we are on our own to drive out of the area, or find our own transportation.


BlueAdjacent

If it's in the US, passenger trains are surpassingly rare. Even freight lines are not super common.


Sequoia424

US freight is actually really expansive


Top-Meeting2849

No high speed rail has me in tears


aVeryAngryTortise

CHSR gang


Mildly_Opinionated

Also depends on who you are. If you're an ethic minority, a sexual minority, trans-gender, socialist etc then there's a lot of good reasons why you might distrust the government putting you on a train. Otherwise you're probably okay so those minorities have to consider: can the government realise I'm a minority? Is the government separating minorities from the cis white Christians? Even if this is an innocuous as having different trains from different stations, do they have reasons to believe certain stations might have trains with disproportionate minorities on board? Minorities have to be constantly on guard of government overreach. The extent of this concern does heavily depend on the current political situation I'll grant you that, but for many minorities there's not a country on earth where the political situation isn't perilous so for a lot of people who they are takes primary concern.


AggressiveSpatula

My first thought as a Jew was “Hey I know this one.”


jctheabsoluteG1234

Yeah reading "if this is a man" hasn't left me hyped about getting bundled on to a train by a government


CX-97

Very true


bjanas

I'm a straight, white, cisgender, able bodied white dude. If this announcement was made I would be incredibly uncomfortable and not just for myself; I realize that I'm probably the best suited in this situation. But I have a thing..... I think it's called Empathy? Compassion? The very idea of this terrifies me on behalf of my friends and frankly anybody who are members of the groups likely being targeted in these situations.


Grouchy-Argument8728

I would first ask for an explanation before going with them.


jadehammerfist

You do not need to know. It's for your safety.


Lolylol37

If I get that answer, I’m nopeing the f out


OnionTruck

So you would have stayed in Chernobyl? Have you seen the mini-series?


Fifteen_inches

You can still evacuate on your own means.


TwoKnot8269

fr im gettin in my own vehicle not a train


Wilder_Boy

That sounds like a death trap unless you know backroads to your destination


DeSwanMan

If there's literally a chernobyl like situation and I get stuck in traffic I will just abandon the car and walk.


Apprehensive_Goal811

Pull a D-FENS. “I’m going home.”


EmperorTharos

Don't know if I'd walk, if we're having a nuclear incident I'm fuckin running lol


SmartSzabo

If it's a genuine emergency then ironically that attitude would bang up the roads if everyone did it and no one would get out!


Fifteen_inches

I’d just walk or bike.


SchitneySmears

Yes, skip away from the nuke.


wieson

X to dodge


Belkan-Federation

If a nuke is inbound, the ones that are big are way to heavy to attach to an ICBM. Trains also wouldn't be fast enough either if they somehow managed to get a big one.


borderline_cat

I don’t trust my government enough to not lie through its sharp fucking teeth to me and drag my ass TO the explosion/nuke/radiation/zombie outbreak/virus or whatever it is that’s an “emergency”. If you can’t be honest enough with your people to TELL them why to evacuate, I’ll take my chances staying out instead of following my crap government blindly.


Dooda1985

Yes, have you seen the miniseries? Pretty much telling you NOT to trust government.


TAPriceCTR

The nuclear cooling towers near me are not live. The plant was never completed.


naroj101

Good thing is don't live in a totalitarian state


Belkan-Federation

Chernobyl happened in a dictatorship that had seized most guns long before it happened because they were scared of a "counter revolution". They didn't need to specify this and everyone was already a slave And are you seriously bringing up a mini series that many haven't seen. Also how factually correct is it


Limitlez

This is the kind of info that you need to disclose in the body of the poll OP. This DRASTICALLY changes my reasoning.


FMIMP

OP keeps adding random details to make it more sketchy in the comments lol


StrangeSathe

Because OP is trying to "Gotcha!" people. They're making a holocaust analogue. This whole post breaks rule 7.


oleboogerhays

Amen. OP can get fucked.


oleboogerhays

Curiosity got the better of me and if you look at OP's post and comment history it is chock full of leading polls similar to this one and alt-right talking points. What a jackass.


Christianjps65

This seems like a loaded question now


[deleted]

I'd more so be wondering how they created trains in my area so suddenly.


BioniqReddit

The only un-American thing about the wording of this question is mention of public transport


Belkan-Federation

They've always existed and still run in some parts of the country


RexIsAMiiCostume

Probably none of these. I would figure "ah fuck. It's gonna be poorly run, cobbled together at the last minute, and probably shitty, but at least we're being helped" but only if they told me *what the emergency was*. If they just said it was some nondescript emergency, and would give no further information, I think I would take my chances on my own...


cflatjazz

I live in Texas so I'd suspect there was an emergency but they would likely fuck up the disaster management somehow and who knows if we'd survive.


spaceguyy

Would you wonder how the us suddenly got passenger trains? That's what I was wondering.


5-dig-dick

The US has always had passenger trains. They've just been disgusting underfunded for over a century now.


spaceguyy

I never knew that. I always think about how nice a train system would be since I hate the uncertainty of possibly not getting on the flight I paid for at the airport. It feels like there's always a 25% chance that I'll be stuck somewhere a few extra days when I travel.


tristenjpl

Well where I'm from a train without firearms is just a normal train. People don't bring guns with them anywhere anyways. They wouldn't even have to mention it.


Ckinggaming5

and i cant go without firearms, i dont have any firearms to go without


[deleted]

this here, if an authority told me not to bring any weapons i wouldnt really suspect anything. its a mode of transport, and usually on those here you wouldnt bring any weapons. We already have to go through metal detector thingys at airports, just someone clarifying that before going on a train with a bunch of people wouldnt really bother me. Esp since this is a emergency and that would be the absolute least of my worries. Id be more concerned with “hey what the heck is going on??” than bringing any sort of weapon.


superbay50

Not only that, but if everyone had to go on trains it’d be safer without firearms because cramped spaces with stressed people can lead to fights


nighthawk_something

Also, in a functional country they wouldn't want people armed during an evacuation, that's a recipe for disaster.


Its_Matt_03

So the mention of it would raise alarm? Like that seems odd they’d specifically say so guns? And not weapons mind you, just firearms.


Mentine_

It wouldn't feel odd at all "hey please there is a emergency, come in the train but please don't take any weapon" would just mean "I know some of you are pretty anxious but there is no need to panic and take weapon to protect yourself"


Original-Passenger75

It could go either way. 99% of people are hopping on trains without a weapon. So mentioning hey remember don’t bring a weapon when that’s already and underlying assumption would set me on edge. Also the fact I am provided with no information as to what is going on even I am asking combined with hey don’t bring any means to defend yourself, it would set me on edge


ChristmasCretin

The fact that they specifically mention it is what makes it suspicious, although probably more so in a country with high gun ownership


fabpp

But if they mention it, it is suspicious


YeetMeDaddio

Obviously a lot of people are going to think of the Holocaust in this situation but the government's have evacuated people in similar manners before in the events of natural disasters and wars. In terms of sheer number, it's a reasonable assumption that they're trying to move you to safety and not to a concentration camp. Plus, in this day and age, we'd all hear about the government putting people on trains and any emergency situations near instantly. So we'd be pretty able to figure out what's happening before getting on a train.


Alchemical17

Not like the media would distort the truth or anything.


Resident-Ad2328

Ok then why would they need to disarm you first?


Aggravating-Age-1535

they disarm you before you get on a plane too


YeetMeDaddio

Why would you need guns on a tightly packed train? Seems like it's more likely to be a hazard in this situation.


The_Bjorn_Ultimatum

Why would the government go out of it's way to explicitly tell you not to bring a gun in an evacuation?


ThicColt

They go out of their way to telll you not to bring a gun on a plane This is like that, except everyone is super stressed. Having to constantly worry that the person next to you is about make this a new 911 is not going to help The safest it not when everyone has deadly force, it's when nobody does


YeetMeDaddio

Because it's a scary and stressful situation and some dumbass could freakout and shoot someone. People are gunna be shoving past each other, fights could break out. Having a gun in this situation could do more harm than good.


king_of_the_borrito

You've got hundreds if not thousands of people on that train and no one knows what's going on but it seems bad and there's one person to whom the stress and anxiety is getting to them a bit much. Do *you* want them to have a gun?


doubtfullyso

Why on earth would it be a good idea to bring your firearm on a train, tensions will be high and people can get trigger happy or take advantage of the situation. I sure as hell am not getting on a train were the passengers have guns


the_evil_overlord2

Because 1-2 psychopaths with ar 15s and crowds of people in an inclosed space don't end well.


Woodie626

Soldier here, because my dipshit buddy likes to travel in the cattle-truck to the fancy laser tag Sim-course with the magazine already loaded, and if they were real bullets and not blanks, he would have killed atleast three of us all because the truck hit a bump and he is dumb. In the event of emergency there's no time to sort out the stupid.


TotallyBrandNewName

>without any firearms So just get in a train like a normal person?


Background_Ant_1472

If they specifically say without firearms that will make me even more skeptical


I_am_monkeeee

*laughs in the rest of the fucking world*


Tsarmani

What are you laughing at? For any country that would be a bizarre request.


jadehammerfist

Yes because you won't need them (that's what you're told).


FMIMP

You need to have a very usa point of view for it to make sense lol. When most people dont have any firearms, it makes no sense to have the government saying that.


TotallyBrandNewName

I meant as in. No one sane carries a firearm except if youre an american.


quebecois97

Do they usually allow you to carry a gun with you on public transportation? I guess it depends on the country


vawtots

I feel like every time I get on any sort of public transportation there is already a no gun rule


SovietSniper621

There is, it's to try and prevent shootings


vawtots

Then I don’t see much of a difference other than this being a government declared emergency


NotAPersonl0

Not really, but why does the government need to explicitly state this? That just makes it sketchy as hell.


Kucimonka

What's wrong with your governments? Do yall need help?


TAPriceCTR

Yes. We've got a president who bragged about illegally extorting a foreign government to protect his sons overpaying employer from just prosecution.


SchitneySmears

Yeah wtf you thought it was a joke? They crazy over here lmao


soxpoole

Government rounding you up and throwing you on trains with no explanation is cause for concern, last time that did that was Germany in the 40s


pcimone90

I'm Canadian, we go everywhere without any firearms.


inbruges99

Same, this is such an American question.


SamGamer012

It would only be odd for them to ask us to not take any guns because no one has a gun in here


PouLS_PL

I'm not a police officer/soldier/criminal, we go everywhere without any firearms


Sassbjorn

I'd be more concerned if we had to get on a train with firearms


malikalarrashib

without firearms? why is even necessary to mention it? this is a real Murica' moment


Machok_

Usually public transport is without firearms, but if they specifically say “no firearms” in the announcement despite it already being obvious, that’d be suspicious


lnedible

Train to Busan inspiration?


Zyoy

I’m thinking more Holocaust.


Outrageous-Advice384

I would definitely question the train because they aren’t really used much around here. Maybe if I lived near a high speed train I’d be “alright, let’s go” but not where I am now. Right now I do trust my government enough not to execute me following a train ride.


MerryMortician

Fuck your train. I’ll take my chances.


Technik_keller

I get Nazi Germany Vibes when i hear "people" , "trains", "camps" >!China i am looking at you and your non existing camps!<


Salt_Winter5888

-300,000 morbillion social points


Limitlez

Paradox: if a morbillion is the biggest number, how can there be more than 1 morbillion?


ImADumbHuman

Because its always morbin’ time


hatefulnoob

Happy Cake Day!


Ilikepotatoes_876

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Steven-Flatcock

Hahahaha 💀💀


NinduTheWise

Most people don’t have firearms so it would just be normal


ChunkyTaco22

Weather it's to help or to hurt people, I'm not going. Too much shit happens when too many people are together and panicking. I'd rather die in my home with my pets


Lolylol37

Na mother f-er I’m trying to survive


zeoNoeN

I don’t know if this is a shitty argument for the second amendment, but it’s not like the Jews where lured onto the trains. It all begann with years of stripping their rights away. Something trans people and women experience in republican states. So here you go, this is the shitty argument in reverse


SteelSpartan2552

Kinda semes sus with no explanation. Def try to take a gun with me.


TheBoopaduke

You get brought to a back room and executed. The rest of the would be passangers go to live in utopia.


blackmaresani

I don't even have a firearm but its still sus how they're specifically saying to board without them. Also the particular emergency changes things


SakShotty

Sketch when they say “no firearm”.


SovietSniper621

Not really, trains already have a no-weapons rule


MkDeltaXD

Which is why they shouldn’t have to specify that firearms would not be allowed


fartfan141

sounds oddly familiar…


Ra1d_danois

Note people have different governments


Blackjack3919

My Jewish heritage won't let me trust the government that easily.


KematianGaming

i am german and we have a bad history with evacuation by train


superbay50

I live in europe, my government actually cares about the citizens I have nothing to worry about


ScuttleMcHumperdink

If it happened out of the blue with no imminent threat then my suspicion is there is some sort of power grab and people need to be dealt with. There is always that tiny percentage of a chance that there is a meteor in the way the wipe out the planet and they secretly chose you to send on the colony ship because you represent the pinnacle of human underachievement.


Graf_Gummiente

There is one country in the world where you can take your firearm on a train, stop thinking it would be like this everywhere else. Geez you are self-centered


ArmStoragePlus

Meanwhile, people living in Germany: "I don't like where this is going..."


aidank91

I'd be like "Nahh I've seen this before, nice try" plus I don't need the gov't to save me, the less they're involved in our lives the better.


Salt_Winter5888

I would think they are delusional because we have no train.


ShredderDent

Fuck that shit I’m headed to the bush WITH my firearms, thank you very much


starfox2032

Hell yeah. I'm with you my brother.


Steven-Flatcock

Count me in too, we’ll I’m Jewish so no way in hell am I talking up that train offer anyway


KnightoftheRepublic9

Considering my government is the US government, I'll nope out.


Kxvtr

Do they tell anything about the 'emergency'


russellzerotohero

What a dumb poll


Hahhahaahahahhelpme

I’d be curious to know the nationalities of the people answering. Since there’s the “without any firearms” line there I’m gonna assume OP is American, and now thinking “duh how can you guys just blindly trust your government?! Stupid sheep!”, and I’m just here thinking dude, you guys are the ones electing your politicians. Just elect ones that aren’t plotting to kill you perhaps?!


BorisDiawisGod

I'm a little shocked how many people would trust the government in that scenario.


Salt_Winter5888

Happy cake day


BigVoice0

Yeah my country has some history with groups of people suddenly disappearing so I would just pass


Ryouconfusedyett

my government is fairly moderate, generally a bit slow and incompetent but not evil. This isn't 1935 fascist Germany. The odds of my government deciding to ship me off to a death camp is virtually 0


Coz957

Do you seriously think Joe Biden, Boris Johnson, Emmanuel Macron, or any other western leader except Orban would actually do this?


Unclehol

Without firearms, as if its a standard way to be. Murica.


Contrell56

I want to know where people live that their first thought is camps/killed.


Steven-Flatcock

America, but I thought that mostly because i’m Jewish, not because of where I live


tristenjpl

America and probably Germany.


Lolylol37

I live in America and the only trains I know run through the track in the neighborhood are cargo trains and every who owns a gun can carry it around at all times without a license for anything and that makes it all suspect


vawtots

I don’t even own a firearm


securinight

It seems simple to me that In this hypothetical packed train, where everyone is stressing about not knowing what is going on, it is far more likely there will be fatalities if people have guns. If nobody has a gun, then anybody who freaks out can be restrained with only minor incident. Even if the guards are armed, it is safe to assume they will be trained to be calm in these situations and are far less likely to use their weapon.


drink-beer-and-fight

These results are sad


Trini_Gamer10

The fact that people distrust their shitty governments is sad?


drink-beer-and-fight

The fact that half the people actually voted for ‘they’re saving me…


Trini_Gamer10

Ah, makes more sense lol


Limitlez

This poll made me realize how unlikely Snowpiercer actually is because the train would probably kill itself far quicker than it does in the actual show. Not much to do with this poll tbh, just really like that show


Surfing_Andromedas

Depends. 1. If I'm part of a group the government doesn't like 2. If the government is slowly becoming for dictatorship like In both those situations I'm not trusting them. And specifically asking no firearms seems suspicious, as if they don't want us to be able to defend ourselves, and why withhold information from us? If its an evacuation they should tell us what's happening, so this us definitely suspicious


Key-Papaya-7429

It concerns me to see these results


FMIMP

Around here most people dont have a firearm so that would be odd to precise that lol


greenhawk63

My answer would vary dramatically depending on the political leader in charge.


Ravioli_6996

Id be worried if there were civilians with firearms on the train


AM-64

Stay Strapped or get Clapped.


NinjaBray2

Someone care to explain what happened the last time a government told a lot of people they had to get on a train?


strangerpie

The govt needs workers to generate more revenue for the GDP, so it doesn't benefit them to kill off batches of the population when there are already decreasing birth rates. I've been living in places where it's illegal to have firearms so it's nothing unusual in the first place. Only in America would this be an issue, lol.


Ckinggaming5

depends, like in current times? in my own country or a specific one? how many people? how many trains? i require full context to answer but for my own country and location and current events here: id say im probably getting moved out of the area so they can do something to other people, or there is an actual thing going on, i dont see myself being targeted by the american government, probably.


SilverKelpie

I'd need further explanation. The nearest train station is more than an hour away. It would be quicker to drive to Canada. Wait, is Canada invading? This can only be a good thing.


bleezzzy

Emergency, get on a train. Ok. Specifically told no firearms, now I'm suspicious. I probably would have left them behind if you didn't bring it up, now I'm suspicious of whats goin on.


Keatron--

There's probably a fire or something, so it's best just to gtfo on the train. Also, no one really has guns anyway, so that's just kinda normal lol. I'm Australian btw


elementgermanium

“Since when does the US have a functioning train system?”


RuneHearth

???


YoursLovingIy

If all races, religions are going, I’m going as well


sleepingonstones

Considering I live in Hawaii….I’d just be happy because this hypothetical situation means we finally have a functioning railroad system


Blue-Jay27

This is really going to depend on who-- is it the general population? Is a specific group targeted? Are there people in positions if power on the train with me? What is the emergency? Are they clearly communicating where/why they're moving us? Are there alternate paths available? What happens if I refuse? These are all things I'd consider before making any assumptions.


BluHat27

Should have separated in American and not American


RageBrage

Do they specify the no firearms thingy? lmao because then it would be weird


kertnik

Well, we in Ukraine don't have to imagine


chillyheaven

I live in a country that’s largely monoethnic, has trains going everywhere, guns basically don’t exist, is under constant (albeit laughable) nuclear threat, and is also under constant threat of basically every kind of natural disaster, so I’m leaning toward benevolent


treeee3333

My country doesn't really use guns, so the gun thing wouldn't bother me at all. If they told me there was an emergency I see no reason why they would lie.


Tank_blitz

my government is actually good so I trust them (not US)


Brachiozaur

The mention of firearms is suspicious but I took it as OP being American-centric


CringyGamerTag

I like how the firearms are supposed to make you question it but in my country people only use guns for hunting so it would be weird bringing a gun with


GammaHunter

I go places without firearms anyways, so the firearm part isn’t too weird, but maybe that’s just because I’m not American


tomaniak

Is this some sort of American question that I'm too European to understand?


LyraPon101

Seems like this is very American-centric


SmartSzabo

Slightly different if you are in Iran or Norway. If someone told me no firearms on the train I'd think ok, that's the normal position.


EffYeahSpreadIt

Depends on the manner of how we are directed to the train but either way wouldn’t think anything good of it


Able_Recording_5760

This poll is stupid. A situation like this cant exist in a vacuum. There has to be some context. Even if you wanted to kill all the people, you would lie to them and tell them that there is, say, a nuke threat or something.


Britishdirt

Getting a train in the UK... They're all on strike. Also this seems like a very America-centered question.


Talibumm

I find it hilarious that so many people immediately jump to internment camps as a conclusion. I get why but it’s being a bit dramatic,governments evacuate people quite often before disasters.


Invaderk2

The right and left of America in one neat graph…


RandomMoron42069

Guess everyone thats in a different country than America is left then.


Alchemical17

It’s the no gun part that makes me suspicious…


cyclothymic-moods

bro i would IMMEDIATELY assume i was going to the camps. like zero hesitation, zero benefits of the doubt, im dipping out asap.


BunkleStein15

Nothing good