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Futski

Megathread is back as the Ukrainian offenses are going on and the pace is high. Also, to the doomers out there: The Ukrainian Armed Forces managed to do just fine in the 4 months since last you paid attention to the war, so please read up on the backlog instead of picking up the pieces right where you left them in April.


generic_tumeric

Finally!


Professor-Reddit

New megathread [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/xbbqh2/megathread_russian_invasion_of_ukraine_d199/)


BlackCat159

Fash mods became benevolent dictators and finally brought back the Ukraine threads??? 😱🤯


BalletDuckNinja

So, why does one even want to be a pro-Russian seperatist around 2014? And now that they've got to experience Putin ravaging their assholes, how do you think many of the separatists are feeling now?


savuporo

There are large russian populations living in EU countries that _still_ want those countries to become russia. Being buttfucked by mother russia comes with the territory


Syx78

> why does one even want to be a pro-Russian seperatist around 2014? Russia has a decent history of bribing people. It's always possible to get a few. Some would argue they've wrecked havoc in the US by doing this getting us everything from Trump to Bernie to Vietnam protesters to the curtailing on nuclear energy. There's a bit more to it as well. The region is Russian speaking but it's also Yanukovych's hometown.


SilverSquid1810

Always get a kick out of the fact that the separatists have a Sparta Battalion based on the literal fucking Spartans from Metro. Glukhovsky was very unhappy about that, if I recall correctly. I think the games even changed the logo in Metro Exodus because the Battalion uses the Sparta logo from the first two games.


HMID_Delenda_Est

Oh yeah, those games are made in Kyiv


Futski

Yeah, but the author is Russian, although [publicly been supporting the Ukrainian side since the beginning](https://www.instagram.com/p/ChqmSO0Ld9f/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=), meaning he is very much a wanted man in Russia.


BalletDuckNinja

What are the best case scenarios for Putin right now? Hope that Ukraine runs out of steam before they take out the south and then start trying to negotiate peace? He'd have to pressure the west to stop supporting Ukraine with a mix of wanting to stop the war and offering gas for it, but so far using energy hasn't really worked out.


Alander_neolib

using gas to have the EU pressure Ukraine into a premature peace deal seems to be their only leverage, but it's seemingly not working very well maybe it'll work better in ca. 2-3 months when it gets colder in europe, but who knows if they'll even have troops in Ukraine at that point. maybe they'll have to draw up general mobilization, and who knows what kind of shit show that will trigger


ThodasTheMage

>using gas to have the EU pressure Ukraine into a premature peace deal seems to be their only leverage, but it's seemingly not working very well How? He is not sending gas, how can he pressure more? Best case scenario is hold his ground and maybe get deal making Crimea officailly Russian or other bs.


EnricoLUccellatore

>How? He is not sending gas, how can he pressure more? russia is still sending some gas, or otherwise they can offer gas supplies restarting in case a peace deal is signed


Alander_neolib

>How? He is not sending gas, how can he pressure more? Wait, and hope for a really cold winter


Crownie

I mean, I think it's pretty clear now that he overreached in the initial invasion and subsequently overplayed his hand in trying to scare off NATO/EU support. His 'best case' is that economic turmoil from energy sanctions leads to more pro-Russian (or at least narrowly self-interested) political leadership coming to power in Europe and cutting off support for Ukraine unless they make a deal that lets Putin secure some kind of face-saving settlement. The problem as far as I can tell is that maximalist ambitions plus leaning too hard on gas for leverage pushed Europe from "this war is very inconvenient" to "existential threat mode", so no one is likely to win a European election on a platform of accommodating Russia.


ThodasTheMage

>political leadership coming to power in Europe and cutting off support for Ukraine unless they make a deal that lets Putin secure some kind of face-saving settlement. This would take years.


SilverSquid1810

Probably hope that the war devolves into a stalemate like pre-invasion Donbas and then annex the separatists and the occupied territories when the West gets bored with the whole thing.


Alander_neolib

seems to be founded on really non-evident assumptions, unless this is a 2-year plan and the 2024 election goes really south


Notoriousley

[I am getting word that in order to realize these massive gains in territory the AFU have had to sacrifice some of their men at a casualty rate this person just yanked out of their ass.](https://twitter.com/rwapodcast/status/1568651959485308935?s=46&t=Ppf0JSzgjpjK7AghKD8Jdw) The Kiev regime has truly sunk to a new low.


Crownie

My source is I made it the fuck up! Russians always claim catastrophic Ukrainian casualties no matter what happens. The fact that your troops would have to be fucking robots to advance at this pace while taking 10:1 casualties apparently didn't cross their mind.


Alander_neolib

"10:1" - yeah that sounds alright


Futski

Yep, everyone knows that the moment Ukrainian soldiers enter a city abandoned by the Russians, some of them just spontaneously die on the spot, its not as if those oft cited higher casualty rates for attacks have to be inflicted by a competent defence.


Notoriousley

It’s hilarious and famously untrue. In a retreat (as this clearly is given the rate the UFA is advancing) the defenders always incur disproportionate casualties.


ACivilWolf

ISW's Key Takeaways from September 10ths Operations 1. Ukrainian forces in Kharkiv Oblast are collapsing Russia’s northern Donbas axis, and Ukrainian forces will likely recapture Izyum itself in the next 48 hours. 2. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) announced the withdrawal of troops from the Balakliya-Izyum line on September 10, and the Russian MoD’s failure to set effective information conditions is collapsing the Russian information space. 3. The withdrawal announcement and occupation authorities’ failure to organize evacuation measures is further alienating the Russian milblogger and Russian nationalist communities that support the Kremlin’s grandiose vision of capturing the entirety of Ukraine. 4. Ukrainian forces reached positions within 15–25km of the Russo-Ukrainian border in northeastern Kharkiv Oblast, Izyum’s northern outskirts, and Lyman’s south and southwestern outskirts, and captured the western half of Kupyansk. 5. Russian forces are reinforcing frontline positions in Kherson Oblast while Ukrainian forces conduct positional battles and continue their interdiction campaign against Russian logistics lines. 6. Russian forces conducted limited ground assaults north of Kharkiv City, south of Bakhmut, and west of Donetsk City. 7. Russian recruitment drives are generating some criticism among Russian milbloggers and regions. 8. Russian forces are reportedly intensifying filtration measures in Kherson and Zaporizhia Oblasts in response to Ukrainian counteroffensives on the Southern Axis.


LogCareful7780

Confirmed that Ukraine has retaken Izyum


tripletruble

planning next summer's trip to ukraine https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Crimea


Rurnastk

How the F was russia not prepared for this? Ukraine literally announced they were doing this 2 weeks ago.


Futski

No, the Ukrainians announced they would attack in a completely other part of the country, and the Russians took the bait, hook and sinker.


EnricoLUccellatore

they also saw some successes in the bait attack tho


Syx78

It takes awhile for the high command to change their views. They have like weekends and vacation plans and set meetings and all that. We've seen that a lot in the US as well. The US was convinced that the war would go to an insurgency phase weeks after it was clear Ukraine would keep things conventional. A lot of the generals are older and take awhile to process things and they're also well off and have large families/life isn't just about work you know, normies have other stuff to do besides lurking reddit.


Alander_neolib

at what point do the russians give up?


Crazed_Archivist

I have a better question Say that the Ukrainian army retakes all the territory, including Crimea, and Russia doesn't surrender. Does Ukraine hunker down and reinforce the border or do they march towards Moscow to pressure then into a white peace?


ka4bi

You're being facetious surely


JaceFlores

The million dollar question


Alander_neolib

Russians are so bad, it makes you wonder if Paradox int. programmed their AI


NormalInvestigator89

Proof reality is a simulation


Mr_Pasghetti

Russia bad


Alander_neolib

**BOLD**


zieger

How many day 1 objectives had Russia achieved as of last week? As of now?


JaceFlores

That Crimea water canal. Maybe


Legit_Spaghetti

What even were their day 1 objectives?


JaceFlores

My guess would a line stretching from Kherson-Melitopol in the south, and Hostomel-Chernihiv-Sumy-Kharkiv-Kupyansk-Starobilsk in the north


Alander_neolib

well, i'll assume crossing the border was a day 1 objective... so atleast that one... for now


God_Emperor_Soros

200 days in and Russian supply lines are STILL shit lol


MURICCA

Mods be like Yall can have a lil megathread, as a treat


Legit_Spaghetti

Keep in mind that a military coup in Russia could lead to someone who wants to double down on the invasion. Not that Putin doesn't seem to be headed that direction already...


Futski

> Keep in mind that a military coup in Russia could lead to someone who wants to double down on the invasion. With which troops?


Crazed_Archivist

Honestly, Russia haven't started drafting civilians yet. A warhawk Russian can mobilize hundreds of thousands


LogCareful7780

If Putin thought he had the political support for that, he would have done it.


Futski

They haven't, but they have wasted tons of irreplaceable materiel, both tanks and planes. Additionally, they don't have the logistics network to support that kind of mass mobilisation.


hallusk

A military coup would be very unlikely to double down because their biggest immediate threat would be the repercussions from another disaster like the present one. The real issue is how a coup government would balance needing the military to both create the appearance of strength abroad and provide security to the regime.


BenFoldsFourLoko

yeah, Putin being gone doesn't mean everything is magically good. could get better, could get worse


Alander_neolib

you can tell it's not a russian tank if (moves && shoots)


savuporo

Seems like there's a [bit of opsec clampdown](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xaz7i0/important_official_request_for_media_blackout_of/) again from ukraine re troop movements in east


JaceFlores

Guess we’ll have to rely on Russian cope channels to give us an approximation


Legit_Spaghetti

Folks, we are officially on #Day 200 of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and *Russia STILL does not even have air superiority.*


rukqoa

Oh man even Kadyrov is coping hard lmfao


JaceFlores

Link?


rukqoa

telegram: readovkanews/41550


Blackhills17

"I don't need a ride. I need ammo." Virgin Ghani vs Chad Zelensky


MolybdenumIsMoney

Remember how hyped Russia's cyber warfare capablities were before the war?


CricketPinata

Russia has repeatedly caught people with their pants down. Since then IT has spent a lot of time adapting to the Russian methods and their best hackers and IT professionals have fled. Russia is not the cutting edge cyberwarfare superpower they were for a brief period. Everyone got used to their tricks.


RunawayMeatstick

Remember how hyped all their capabilities were? This sub unanimously believed Ukraine would get rolled by arty in days. Even after the invasion had seemed to be a failure a week in, there were users in these megathread saying Kyiv is flooded with Russian tanks and we just don’t know it yet.


Alander_neolib

The russian govt will give out so much lada-money to grieving families, the inflationary impact will rival turkyes economic policy


Leoric

Going through news withdrawal.


MolybdenumIsMoney

Ukraine has liberated an area larger than Delaware.


Sen2_Jawn

Hopefully the area is better/nicer than Delaware


LogCareful7780

Look out, Dark Brandon is standing behind u


onometre

Joe Biden will remember this


Soulja_Boy_Yellen

Yeah but Ukraine is a real place.


thefuturegov

This is the work of темний брендон


NNJB

Blind Brandon?


fishlord05

How many Ukrainians were forcibly relocated into Russia? Peace terms have to include repatriation but there may be thousands at least lost forever :( I hope that doesn’t happen and we get them all back


JaceFlores

I think it’s 4 million or so have been deported


fishlord05

How the hell are they going to get them back That is like 1-A levels crimes against humanity


MURICCA

Annexing Moscow


savuporo

This isn't the first Russian rodeo resettling millions. If they get their way, they'll never get them back


JaceFlores

Population exchanges, but perhaps most likely sanctions relief. If you want an economy, return the people


fishlord05

True Who would the Ukrainians give back?


JaceFlores

Collaborators and pro-Russia persons. It won’t be nearly enough though, so sanction relief will be the primary means of repatriation


fishlord05

True This would be aside from PoW exchanges?


JaceFlores

Yes


savuporo

That [Change.org petition](https://www.change.org/p/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BC-%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83-%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE-%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D1%89%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C-%D1%81%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%8E-%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%87%D1%82%D1%83-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81) to send Khabarovsk governor Dektyarev to fight in Donbass has now 18k signatures. He said he really wants to go but can't leave because duty and stuff


DEEP_STATE_NATE

[absolutely awesome flowchart on how to identify Russian armor ](https://twitter.com/livfaustdiejung/status/1568815516675936256?s=46&t=vsZUEzwFEWTdGzrg9NgzQg) !ping OSINT


Alander_neolib

Cant you just check if It’s on fire or not?


siuuuwemama

I thought there would be more flows to broken treads and burning hulls


capsaicinintheeyes

[Master P](https://youtu.be/UAorHyqhhBU) says he's sorry, but the sight of so many ruined tanks has left him unable to spit fire. ^("I thought I had no limit," he was reported as saying softly, to himself.)


NaClMiner

And detached turrets


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VerticalTab

Did people think it was just some sort of wild coincidence that liberalism took over the world?


Own_Pomegranate6127

And why wouldn't you support the liberal new world order? Do they not like winning? 😎🌐


Syx78

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w38t-NhrADM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w38t-NhrADM) Just because liberalism returns good results doesn't mean it will always be there. It requires constant vigilance to keep tyrants like Trump or Putin at bay


Healingjoe

If our form of electing representatives wasn't as pathetic as it is, people like trump would have a much harder time winning


Alander_neolib

It was a nefarious plot by (((shills))) to... *check notes*... increase prosperity, peace and stability


Legit_Spaghetti

[This video just never gets old](https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1568675893131845634?cxt=HHwWhIC9nbyah8UrAAAA).


thefuturegov

I’m here in Ukrainian-occupied Moscow


breakinbread

Putin: my northeastern front left me 😔


JaceFlores

Look guys, Ukraine won’t be able to withstand an invasion. It’s better we just cut our losses and focus on China. Good luck Ukraine


biconicat

Something subtle but interesting is that with Charles becoming king Ukraine chose to forgo the long standing Russian tradition of referring to royalty with that name as Karl, in both Ukrainian and Russian spoken inside Ukraine. They're using Charles instead just like in the UK, explicitly for that reason. It's pretty cool how it kind of symbolizes the bond between Ukraine and the UK. This kind of divergence is gonna be happening more and more I think Meanwhile in Russia they've been referring to him as Karl and I was very confused what Karl they were talking about until yesterday lol Meduza wrote an [article ](https://meduza.io/cards/byl-prints-charlz-stal-korol-karl-a-nelzya-bylo-oboytis-bez-etoy-putanitsy-chem-ploh-charlz-iii)explaining the whole thing but basically it's a centuries long attempt to unify the names of historical figures from different nations, referring to them all by the same name(Johann, John, Jean and Juan are all referred to as Ioan for example). Except the rules aren't set in stone so this causes a ton of confusion and many Russian historians are too set in their ways for it to change. It's not a strictly Russian thing tho, Belarus and Poland also have certain historical names rules


LogCareful7780

SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS


Sorensen12

In Germany they not only use the English name variants but the English words *King* and *Queen*, as well. Very peculiar.


biconicat

Yeah that doesn't surprise me, German is full of anglicisms that can be used alongside the German words. I think it's also to avoid the whole issue of referring to modern royals by their English names while keeping the old ones for the historical royals and ending up with no continuation


ChocoBisket

Apparently the Spanish refer to him as Carlos


christes

That makes sense given the dual names of Karl V / Carlos I back in the day.


DEEP_STATE_NATE

> yeah sex is great but have you ever seen the armed forces of the Russian federation suffer repeated defeats in the Kharkiv region?


datums

*Don't ever talk to her or Kherson again.*


MolybdenumIsMoney

People who don't realise that the K is silent won't get this joke 😔


rukqoa

There's only one way this war is heading....concessions from the Ukranian side.


198Throwawayy

No Ukrainian flag atop the Kremlin 😭


JaceFlores

I agree. Zelensky probably won’t be able to stake a claim on Kaliningrad 😔 (And lol on the downvoters)


window-sil

It's a beautiful morning in Kherson! https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1568810902157406209


DEEP_STATE_NATE

> Babe, wake up, Ukraine took 15 towns I can't pronounce.


Evilpenguin526

Me @ my fiance 😔


Lyndon-Gains-Johnson

😔🤝😔


rukqoa

nato flairs should admit that a major ukrainian counter-offensive is pure hopium


Proof-Tie-2250

What do you mean?


RogueCrete

It’s a joke on some tankie-takes from the earlier days of the war. Hard to believe how far we’ve came.


Alander_neolib

Probably sarcasm


Proof-Tie-2250

Seems to be the case.


SilverSquid1810

Gentlemen I’m pleased to announce that because of the demonstrated ineffectiveness of hyper-masculine Russian soldiers, the US military will begin to phase out its current manpower with the goal of attaining an all-femboy force by 2035.


heresyforfunnprofit

I thought suicide troops were a Geneva violation.


198Throwawayy

Fembois and femboi drones uwu


Syx78

Any coup or rebellion inside of Russia is highly unethical and imperialist. Will you westerners not think about the people of India? Putin has been a good friend to India. Further, Indians are poor and need Russian Oil to combat inflation. [https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/india-finmin-says-importing-russian-oil-part-inflation-management-2022-09-08/](https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/india-finmin-says-importing-russian-oil-part-inflation-management-2022-09-08/) Further, India has recently lowered border-tensions with China and dropped out of the Biden Administration's new trade pact so the importance of a strong India-friendly autocrat in Russia is all the more important. Will you not think of the poor people in India? Why be so selfish?


Crazed_Archivist

Why do you hate the global Indian?


DEEP_STATE_NATE

> Just stunning today to watch the total collapse of a once great power that was dominant for much of the 20th century and was still considered truly formidable by many up until recently. Of course, I'm referring to Nebraska


rukqoa

But but Russia had the more masculine military recruitment ads....


Alander_neolib

Another victim of toxic masculinity ✊🏻😔 Precisley another approx. ~55k victims of it


Average_GrillChad

I think it's time for Putin to be a big manly man and lead the troops personally from the front


savuporo

They must have a few operational IL-76's still left, how about he airdrop to Hostomel


Alander_neolib

It's even funnier the... 5th? Time


MysteriousLurker42

Nicholas II moment


lalalalalalala71

And then pull an Idriss Déby.


Personagem_Principal

Absolute Chad


Atupis

Zelenskyi did it time of crisis so Putin should do it also.


MrMineHeads

Anyone please have a map? I am having a really hard time properly appreciating the recent gains.


Soulja_Boy_Yellen

https://twitter.com/georgewbarros/status/1568747247697010688?s=21&t=v7ZUlULrNU6t_e91tUdI2Q


Which-Ad-5223

out of date, Ukraine took Izium


rukqoa

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1568729644848791556


ignoranceisicecream

Been asleep for 197 days. What happened?


datums

Russia found out.


MaimedPhoenix

Because they f-ked around.


Alander_neolib

Been a sleep for 7h, what happened?


Craig_VG

Not much honestly


Personagem_Principal

Putin's family moved to Zelenskyi's house


Professor-Reddit

It's 2pm rn and I'm still in bed reading the news 😴


Alander_neolib

I better see you type "Good morning" in 3h then 🤬


Professor-Reddit

How about now? 🙄 Good morning 😤


Alander_neolib

Awe, good morning to you too 🥰


Professor-Reddit

It's the afternoon here 🤬


Alander_neolib

Wqit... did you mean it was 2.00 or 14.00?


Professor-Reddit

2pm 😵‍💫 Actually closer to 3 now 😩


Alander_neolib

Noswedish speaker knows wtf am/pm means 😒


Professor-Reddit

[](#malarkey)


breakinbread

Finland and Ukraine are now neighbors


Alander_neolib

Based 🤩


Atupis

Moscow people republic.


rukqoa

According to several accounts, one of the Russian soldiers in Balakliia named Buba blew himself up after saying goodbye to his comrades on radio. Which is fine by me, I just hope he didn't take any Ukrainians with him.


Atupis

There is rumours crisis inside Kremlin. https://twitter.com/RusiAlpo/status/1568709635170877444?s=20 Rusi is pretty legendary Finnish diplomat so not just random Twitter person.


SuspiciousUsername88

Structurally the English translation almost reads like a Q drop. Not commenting on it's veracity or anything 🤷‍♀️


MaimedPhoenix

Don't do that. Don't give me hope.


armeg

Is he implying the army might be ready to stage a coup….?


Atupis

Army is too weak at the moment if there is coup it is FSB.


armeg

What is the K bridge? Kerch?


Atupis

Yup


lalalalalalala71

My problem with that is if instead of leaving Ukraine they actually run the war a little bit more competently.


Alander_neolib

Translation?


Futski

\>is Finn \>doesnt speak Finnish Many such cases


Alander_neolib

roughly 280K such cases, in fact


Soulja_Boy_Yellen

The information "from the inside" speaks of a serious crisis between Putin and the army, although perhaps there is not yet a coordinated hijacking threat (rumor?). A 25 km long motorcade leaving Crimea via the K-bridge? Ukraine advancing rapidly in occupied territories (fact). Putin's system collapsing?


Alander_neolib

I really want this to be true, so i ~~will be very sceptical until further proof~~ take it as 100% fact


Soulja_Boy_Yellen

Same bestie.


Ari_Rahikkala

"Kaappaus" here would translate more clearly as "coup" than "hijacking", it was just shortened from "vallankaappaus" for twitter.


AnimeAlt44

Twitter for a long time now has had a native translation button right on the Tweet itself that works decently enough to get the general message across.


Alander_neolib

I dont have twitter, nrither account or app, not sure on that


Personagem_Principal

Create one with a doge profile picture


Alander_neolib

Ew, no


MrMineHeads

Ok, I am blooming too much, what is the most credible reason to not think Ukraine won't just march into Donetsk and Luhansk in like a week?


Syx78

Some of the lines there are very old and well dug in. Further, that's one of the few areas in Ukraine that has tall hills or tiny mountains: [https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Topographic-Map-of-Ukraine\_fig16\_304164181](https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Topographic-Map-of-Ukraine_fig16_304164181) So the terrain isn't great. That said, in the area around Severodonetsk they've probably abandoned their older positions so a fast push in those directions could still do a lot.


Jacobs4525

It depends on if the Russians can actually reach and occupy those formations in time in sufficient numbers. Of course, that’s if Ukraine decides they have the resources to pursue rather than consolidate their current gains.


CricketPinata

Also Russian morale is very low. How tough are those formations going to be manned by guys that just abandoned the frontlines?


AnimeAlt44

I mean Russian artillery still exists. It's weaker sure but they didn't just run out like a cartoon.


datums

Yeah, but how many functional artillery pieces did they have sitting that far behind the front line, with teams ready to operate them, and munitions stocked close by to supply them?


AnimeAlt44

A lot probably


rukqoa

They'll outrun their supply lines.


Atupis

And people need sleep.


window-sil

>The "Ukraine will fall" bad takes matter because they dominated the discourse and likely slowed down much needed defensive aid to Ukraine, because the allies were worried advanced weapons would end up in the hands of the Russians. So yes, bad takes cost lives. https://twitter.com/AndreaChalupa/status/1568644147698974724 😤


rukqoa

As did all the idiots denying that Russia will invade. Greenwald, Snowden.


Alander_neolib

Atleast snowden had the decency to stfu


lalalalalalala71

Too little, too late from that fucking traitor.


Macquarrie1999

Our allies


Professor-Reddit

Lyman being liberated literally opens up the entirety of northern Luhansk to a Ukrainian counter offensive


Atupis

I think this point they can just flank whole eastern front and free fresh troops to attack. It is like total Russian collapse.


Zlesxc

Just imagine the quality of a Ken Burn’s doc on this.


datums

Jesu


p00bix

Looking through Pikabu (closest Russian equivalent to reddit) rn and hooooly hell people are angry that Ukrainians who collaborated with Russia aren't being evacuated. Widespread agreement that this is hypocritical given that the whole point of the 'special military operation' is (at least according to Putin, whom a lot of them still support) to protect pro-Russian citizens in Ukraine. Tons of highly upvoted anti-Putin comments and posts too, which is seriously impressive given how heavily censored the site is.


BATIRONSHARK

from a certain POV those Russians are somewhat right in that complaint the second thing is more interesting. by anti putin as criticizing the regime or his handling of events?


Personagem_Principal

I mean, they are stupidly naive, but given what they were fed they are at least somewhat moral


DEEP_STATE_NATE

Maybe Reddit will finally learn it's not a war crime to kill retreating troops now that ukraine is doing it