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Easee99

“Nothing to see here, just a private balloon flying near the North Pole etc. We blew a bunch of money on missiles to blow up a kid’s science project, come to my office to ask questions when you can be more polite. See you in 2024”. Fully expected a generic blanket statement, but zero transparency or details whatsoever. 2023 United States in less than 50 words. I am disappointed to say the least but am in no way shocked.


No-Explanation-3159

no private entity has claimed the objects shot down, that tells you everything you need to know. This is a coverup, what the coverup is hiding is equally scary. The footage needs to be released.


pf30146788e

No company or person is going to claim responsibility for illegally flying objects that had to be shot down at the expense of taxpayers to the tune of millions of dollars or whatever. Unless they’re a moron.


randombsname1

Only thing I got wrong in this whole thing is the fact that these (possibly) weren't from China/Russia. Otherwise I feel pretty damn good with my, "hot-takes". Off the bat when this first started I said likely explanations were: 1. We didn't see this many balloons because radars weren't optimized to detect them, and/or possibly even set to ignore them to reduce background noise. This is more or less confirmed to be the case from multiple sources now. 2. These could be balloons, dirigibles, blimps, or whatever the hell else you want to call them, and it's very easy to build them to look like any shape you want with lightweight semi-rigid framing like plastics. This is the current claim by the administration now. 3. Mylar and/or mylar-like material isn't hard for whatever these things were, and you can coat any object of any shape with such a thing. 4. I said that there was no perfect way to identify an object unless they got their hands on it due to the difficulty in tracking objects in the sky with no good background reference; while in a jet traveling hundreds of miles an hour. Claimed now by the media as the reason cited for lack of proper identification by the USAF. 5. I said that the fact that Kirby mentioned these moved at the, "whim of the wind" and showed no signs of propulsion was also a clear sign of a balloon, blimp, dirigible, etc. Again, what is claimed to be the case now. My next hot take that is going to likely happen is: 1. The balloon, dirigible, blimp, or other inflatable WILL be found within the next month or 2 by random people, and it'll prove that these were no more alien than a McDonald's cheeseburger, and this sub will just cry coverup as always because their need to believe is that strong.


nomadichedgehog

I just watched back the Rubio interview and caught something I hadn't before. He said that the 1% the government can't share was related to the actual Chinese spy balloon that was shut down, but he then followed that up with saying that the three objects that were shot down after looked like *nothing* like that balloon.


JayR_97

The senators seem to be pretty quiet after that joke of a press briefing.


mortgagesblow

Won’t shock me if those who spoke out in the last 2 days were *spoken with privately* off-camera. I’m so fucking bitter lmao


toooldforthisshit247

The Hopi legend of how the Third World ended (we are in the Fourth). Whoever gave us this tech may be testing us again and I hope we do the right thing this time > But some of them made a pátuwvota (a shield made of hide) and with their creative power, made it fly through the air. >On this, many people flew to a big city, attacked it, then returned so fast that no one knew where they came from. Soon the people of many cities were making pátuwvotas and flying on them to attack one another. So corruption and war came to the Third World as it had to the others. https://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/KuskurzatheThirdWorld-Hopi.html


DocMoochal

Even if these are balloons, heres hoping the world's eyes will be on the sky now.


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mckirkus

What? Did you watch it? "The intelligence community's current assessment is that these three objects were most likely balloons tied to private companies, recreation or research institutions."


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toooldforthisshit247

The other branches wanted access to the USAF SAPs and this fiasco will probably lead to the ‘global protocols’ where they now can The phenomena will still be covered up though. This stage of ‘disclosure’ was just to spread the tech around. Where it came from is still years down the round (or if ever)


dontKair

Adding on for context about the "fundies" comment: https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/evangelical-christians-dominate-air-force-academy-report-says/


DustAshamed584

It’s interesting that so many here are practically praying that these are alien aircraft. Praying that aliens finally make contact. We have no idea what would happen if aliens do ever arrive. It could be very very bad.


UAP_enthusiast_PL

You completely misunderstand. It's about the truth. You're making it sound like it's only fact if it's officially announced. Like if there is no admission, then there is no problem. We may be in the middle of a potentially dangerous interaction with far more powerful polities/entities, and people fight over bullshit. The fact of the interaction does not change with admission, what changes is our ability to plan, prepare, react. This is what we are potentially being denied. The gov does not have the power to make it go away by obfuscating, it's potentially making things worse.


DustAshamed584

Well said. I agree with you. However, I’m talking about the multiple “man, I really wish it was aliens” posts. I just don’t understand wishing that


RealAkumaryu

I just can speak for me. I am interested in the subject since I was a kid. This didn't change in my life until today and with all the information I gathered I strongly believe (and I want to stress "I believe") that intelligent extra terrestrial life is real and that we are at least under some kind of surveillance by"them". I don't want Aliens to show themselves and take over the world, I don't believe anyone with a sane mind would wish something like this. But, I have the strong hopes that such an event would change the way we humans here on earth look at life, the familiarities we have as humans, we are one race, share one planet. I believe that such a event could turn us away from a military, pharmaceutical and industrial driven society to a advanced scientifically and socially orientated race. We waste so much potential on our planet. We have so many extremely talented, intelligent and beautiful people out there and once we overcome our cultural differences, ethnicity divided thinking,the starving, energy problems and environmental issues, we can achieve everything. Since the times of the tribes until societal structures began to emerge, we fought wars and we altered our natural environment often enough for the worse. This never stopped and I don't believe that we will change this for the better in the near future. A contact would have hopefully such a deep impact on the world that we can turn the tides and learn from a civilization or plenty that have already been there. In my belief (can't stress this enough) whoever visits us, observes us, whatever u call it, don't seem to have the destructive traits that we have and there's a good chance imo that such entities are further evolved as we are. I don't see Aliens as a Jesus substitute, rather more as potential mentors. Contact could likely have a catalyst effect on us as a evolving species.


DustAshamed584

Well when you say it like that lol. Very solid points. Appreciate the answer


UAP_enthusiast_PL

The worse your estimate of your personal or general situation, the more you stand to gain from a shake up, the bigger the better. To the downtrodden add the bored and curious.


n3ws4cc

For me personally: humanity is doomed on it's own anyway. Maybe they can help.


foma_kyniaev

people want something interesting to happen


DustAshamed584

Lol. Find a hobby


loveuk

Is an amateur radio balloon a [possible explanation of at least one of the objects? ](https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/)


Cueponcayotl

The article uses this image to illustrate the forecasted position of the balloon. And it does shows that the position on the day the object was shoot-down coincide. https://i.imgur.com/Vsluwrh.jpg Furthermore, the team responsible for the balloon has declared it “missing in action”. But, right now, in their own webpage where they have links to track their projects, I found this https://i.imgur.com/pA1vTPa.jpg Which indicates that the balloon send a signal on February 16 and it is over the sea. It’s position “now” also coincides with the forecasting. But the team has not made any new declarations, afaik. So, given this, and that these balloons aren’t ATV sized, I don’t think this was it.


loveuk

So from that original article they recommend following Ian Kluft, and his latest on Twitter is that K9YO still hasn't sent any data, as of the evening 16 Feb: https://twitter.com/ikluft/status/1626316785275506688


Cueponcayotl

Sorry, I forgot to edit this comment. You’re right, I made a mistake. I thought the position marked today was an update, but apparently the balloon has been at the same spot since 10 Feb and it is missing.


mynewhoustonaccount

Further, they should really have ADS-B on those things. I'm surprised if they don't.


Dminus313

They do, but there's no battery because it would add weight and it would fail eventually anyway. It can only transmit when the solar panel is generating enough current for the radio to operate.


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Reddajb

Is anyone talking about this?....(see transcript below) [https://youtu.be/3GQmzVDJIL8?t=307](https://youtu.be/3GQmzVDJIL8?t=307) (Feb 13th press conference) "Indeed, President Biden conducted the first-ever Daily Intelligence Briefing session devoted to this phenomenon back in June of 2021. He was briefed that this is not just an issue for the United States but one for the rest of the world." How is a statement like this made, and not one reporter asks the question: "Sir, you said this was a problem for the "world", what exactly do you mean by that?"


RealAkumaryu

To their fairness, they didn´t have the chance to. I couldn´t watch it live, just watched it and I can´t f\*\*\*ng believe that he just walked away. WTF


Reddajb

It's insane right!? They did have the chance though 3 days ago at the Feb 13th press conference (when that statement was made)...but the reporters asked the absolute dumbest questions.


mckirkus

If these turn out to be the hobbyist Pico balloons some are suggesting the government put the lives of civilians on the ground at risk in an attempt to look tough on China. I could see why they don't want to talk. An AIM 9 hitting a $75 Pico ballon at mach 2 isn't going to leave much behind to collect. But what's interesing is that because they destroyed the evidence, it leaves the door open for classification as a UAP. And all 100 senators just got a classified briefing on the UAP situation as a result. Before it was just Rubio, Gillibrand, etc. So you now have 100 Senators in the know, some calling for transparency and declassification because of what may be a HAM/Balloon club in AK. Revenge of the nerds 🤓


chefkoolaid

They weren't balloons the Pico balloon thing designed to sow confusion


odc100

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/hobby-clubs-missing-balloon-feared-shot-down-usaf


chefkoolaid

https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FK9YO-15&timerange=604800&tail=604800 Showing up on the tracking link directly from that groups website.


chefkoolaid

I saw that but the balloon has reported in as of the 16th which is today it is over the ocean off of Southern Alaska the link is posted in comments elsewhere


odc100

Different balloon on that article and ‘debunking’. Check again.


chefkoolaid

https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FK9YO-15&timerange=604800&tail=604800 Idk this is the trackijg link for ky90 15 directly from that groups website. How is it a different balloon?


odc100

Ok, I’ll take your word for it.


chefkoolaid

Well I mean I'm just posting the tracking link directly from the group's website that was saying the balloon is lost. If you do have evidence its a different balloon Im all easrs


chefkoolaid

Same area same radio call sign pretty sure it's the same balloon


neildegrassebyeson

If it was a $75 Pico balloon and we spent over 400k to shoot it down… Yeah I’m never paying my taxes again


J_Babe87

I said something similar to this down below and got downvoted. Haha what the hell?


Reddajb

We saw a week ago what happens when its really a "balloon"... they show us everything, give us all the details....but with these "objects" (what they now "suspect" are more "balloons") we get nothing from them --but more questions. That right there tells you something big happened....Otherwise they would just show us the close up photos, the video downing it, the video retrieving it...JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE OFFICIAL CHINA SPY BALLOON. This is all so insane.


chefkoolaid

The government didn't really release anything until after the balloon was down. All imagery was released by people on the ground they recorded the balloon after it was visible to the naked eye


Reddajb

Well I'd pushback a little...they told us a lot of details on the spy balloon, what the craft was, what it was doing, where it was headed, who's it was, a picture of us literally retrieving it from the ocean....so it's not quite the same. I mean the news literally couldn't shut up about it.


chefkoolaid

Not until after amateurs had released footage of the balloon. If no one on the ground had noticed the government never would have said anything


Reddajb

That's fine, but we know now that they destroyed three more unknown "objects", it's public knowledge...so why not just give us the same transparency at this point?...especially since the narrative is just more "balloons". If it is just balloons, show us.


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Reddajb

Right, but those reasons are lies, just check out the guy that has been giving updates from the very Alaska site....everything the government officials have said (not recoverable, bad weather, too extreme of conditions) has been a lie according to him, and he seems pretty believable. So any rational thinker following this news closely has to assume/know we have plenty of data/imagery etc. but we are just being blatantly lied to. Ugh!


flavius_lacivious

There should be no issue releasing the footage then, right? Taxpayers fund this do let’s see. If these were balloons, why did it take so long to identify them? Are we that shitty at this stuff? Why brief Congress instead of telling everyone what they were at the same time?


Reddajb

Agree on all points. I could not be more frustrated with all of this...apathy from the public, and ideocracy from our government representatives. The truth is out there if we would just push for the answers and ask the right questions.


oface5446

We need a supercut of Kirby, et al correcting reporters that these are “objects, not balloons” and now the “benign balloons” Also my new punk rock band will be called the Benign Balloons, first album will be entitled “Commercially Available”


Carosello

It's such BULLSHIT. If the objects are tied to research institutions or private companies why hasn't anyone said anything? "Hey guys that was us, woops". Like they may be trying to avoid blame for flying so high in US/Canadian airspace but the government is likely to *actually* find the objects and connect who they belong to.


mckirkus

The guy that runs Pico Balloons said he tried to contact the FBI but got the runaround. Look for the Aviation Week story on this sub.


Carosello

Hmmmmmmm. Guy should contact the media 🤷🏽‍♀️


greg0525

It may not be relevant but I after watching Biden's announcenent, I have a different opinion on him (I am European) He seems a very nice, kind and respectful person. An experienced, wise elderly man, who I could listen to all night while having some beer. I cannot blame him, he is probably just doing what he is told. Also, I feel a bit sorry for him because of the age. However, he still looks sharp and smart. And those reporters were not interested in the matter at all. They were interested in their pay raise. I wish him good health, long live Mr President!


lossofgravity16

One of the worst deductions i’ve ever seen from a horribly handled “announcement” by a mentally incompetent world leader.


J_Babe87

He probably is nice. Doesn't mean he should be leading a world superpower haha.


thegentledude

hey balloon guy, if they shot down your property go after that government money


Rust1n_Cohle

I was kind of disappointed biden referred to them as balloons when we've been told by the pentagon they are not referring to them as that for a reason.


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mciaccio1984

I voted for the guy. Horribly disappointed in this and him. Just really goes to show it doesn’t matter if they have a D or R after their name, they all will feed you bullshit. I’m tired of the government treating us like children.


CrappyTire69

Funniest part for me is the people bellyaching about the US wasting a couple $400k missiles as if that's not like 0.00005% of the US's near-Trillion-dollar defence budget.


MemeticAntivirus

Correct, but it's just a way of emphasizing the seriousness of the situation. The US government and military are supposed to work for the American taxpayer. Sometimes there is good reason to classify things, but not everything and not in this case. We spent millions of *American taxpayer dollars* in personnel, jets and missiles to take these three things down, without receiving any photos or concrete information from the expensive sensors we know they have (because we paid for them). The spy balloon was treated much differently. This contrast is hard to ignore. If it's likely three benign hobby balloons that they just annihilated with missiles, why can't they provide the video of that? Or even any photos from the pods on the F-16s? Everyone would stop caring. The fact that it's being hidden and treated much differently to the Chinese spy balloon is very suspicious.


Bitter_Coach_8138

1970s United States: triangulates the position of a crashed Soviet sub from sensors half way across the globe and recovers it clandestinely in thousands of feet of water. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian 2020s United States: can’t recover 3 objects they shot down with missiles without warheads specifically to not obliterate the object, in known locations, in our own country and a neighboring ally…. One of which landed on literal ice, the other in a lake of max 200’ depth, and the hardest one is in some mountains. Idk what the truth is but I don’t fucking believe that for one second.


DarthMauledByABear

**without warheads** This should be more common knowledge especially in this sub.


Bitter_Coach_8138

Yup, it’s been repeated by numerous officials. People keep saying “well they probably vaporized it with the missile when it blew up!” First of all, there should still be debris. Second, they didn’t blow anything up they merely “punctured” the objects.


ACOdysseybeatsRDR2

After that I'm more convinced lmaoo


mortgagesblow

UAP that can turn on a dime and propel to a speed none of our craft can come close to were hit by our sidewinders? SURE BRO. I don’t believe their excuse, nor do I believe we even shot something down. This is just a part of their fucked up trickle-truthing for eventual disclosure decades/centuries from now Sorry to sound like a nutjob but I have NEVER felt as sure as I do now that we are not alone


MemeticAntivirus

Advanced technology fails all the time. A multi-million dollar Blackhawk helicopter just lost a battle against the ground. They're not designed to crash. Sometimes things break, run out of power or fuel, or succumb to human error. How expensive and advanced their capabilities are ceases to matter in some cases. Even if one of these objects has a non-human origin, there's no telling how long it's been floating around. It could have malfunctioned, been disconnected from its owners or jettisoned in the wind after achieving its original purpose. It could have been placed there deliberately as a test of capabilities. And this is assuming we've heard the truth about destroying them. No wreckage, no footage, no photos, no testimony from pilots. There's really no indication the missiles successfully destroyed all of the objects in the first place, and a lot of reason to believe we're not getting the whole story.


flavius_lacivious

If it was a balloon, and they successfully shot it down, it would be treated like the China spy balloon.


profbeantoes

What a Clown Fiesta this is turning out to be. "We don't think there is any way these are foreign data collection spy craft because they are clearly civilian data collection spy craft." So does this mean that our pilots and military can not positively ID civilian research craft or their transponder signals. That is a deeply disappointing thought given Prez just said he wants to green light shooting "random" stuff out of the sky. "Don't worry about what it is until after you kill it". Absolutely wreckless dumpster fire of disappointment.


n3ws4cc

>wreckless Hehe


mortgagesblow

The Chinese ballon? Let me reassure you, as President, that we were immediately on top of it, analyzing it, assessing its trajectory, and took action. Also we have taken thousands of pictures These other objects? They’re not China or any other country, but uh - that’s all we know. Chinese spy ballons? We totally understand that. Private company tech is baffling us though, it’s a real doozy! Also no pictures or video and DON’T ASK, just trust us. *Room expectedly ERUPTS in a flurry of questions* *Walks out in the SHADIEST way possible because he has clearly been told he cannot field questions on the extremely inconsistent logic* **BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.**


fuzzy_wizzle_nutz

Listen to what he's telling us. Somebody fucked up. Or it's all being orchestrated and will end with eventual disclosure. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if biden himself didn't even know what those things were. Just look at the legislation that was implemented by congress. Put the pieces together. They have no choice but to do it this way.


n3ws4cc

Guess they're gonna try to bury all this. Man I really wanted aliens. Was fun while it lasted y'all.


fuzzy_wizzle_nutz

Nothing is getting buried ffs. Put the pieces together. Look at what is happening. This isn't the movies. Disclosure isn't announced I. Some dramatic announcement by Morgan freeman.


n3ws4cc

The pieces i see are 1. they shot at something they don't know what 2. They won't tell us what if they do know 3. We just got a friday afternoon presser which said ah theyre just commercial stop asking. What am i not putting together?


fuzzy_wizzle_nutz

U gonna have to dig deeper than that sir. On one hand u say they're liars. On the other hand u want them to tell u there's aliens. Why should their words matter to u if they're liars? Just look at what just happened. 1. They shot something down. 2. No video or photos released. 3. Objects don't belong to foreign military. 4. We don't know where they come from. 5. Probably from the private sector. Think!!!!! I for one think this is fucking huge. Has our government ever shot something down, acknowledge it, and not been able go identify what or where the object is from? Think!!!


n3ws4cc

What are you trying to say my dude? I don't believe their explanation either but how is this not trying to shove it under the carpet?


fuzzy_wizzle_nutz

It's not being swept. But ur gonna have to do a lot more reading and formulate your own theory. I can't tell u how to think or what these things are. I can only formulate my opinion. And it took me years of reading, headaches, bouts of frustration and arguing to arrive at my conclusion. All the information is out there. Just dig.


n3ws4cc

Why so vague?


fuzzy_wizzle_nutz

Because I did the work lol. And to see things materializing is beyond amazing to me. It's just going to take time.


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JayR_97

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined


J_Babe87

It's looking more and more likely they were just trigger happy after the Chinese balloon incident. I'm sure they found some scraps of stuff but probably can't tell much from them as they were small craft that got completely blown to hell by missiles. They fucked up big time and are trying to save as much face as they can.


swskeptic

So then come out, say we found some shreds, it's just a balloon. But they haven't done that, either. Shit isn't adding up.


J_Babe87

Come out and say they wasted thousands and thousands of dollars to blow up some civilian science projects? Nah their ego is wayyyy too big for that. Edit- I guess they are basically saying this. Not going to find much debris when you blow up a 6 lb. $75 dollar bag of plastic with a sidewinder.


MemeticAntivirus

That is literally the narrative they're going with. And yes, it's stupid.


J_Babe87

You're right. Editing my comment.


Rev19rb

Wake up dude. We claim to be able to identify organic molecules on Mars but can’t find a balloon on our own planet? Nothing the government has said has made any sense.


J_Babe87

I'm not saying they haven't found anything. I'm saying they have and they don't want to look like idiots.


MaryofJuana

So, their decision is to look like idiots while floating the idea that the leading intelligence community's theory is they are idiots? And this avoids looking like idiots?


J_Babe87

They already look stupid, they want to avoid looking even more like idiots, yes.


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SabineRitter

They need to be salty with themselves if they let it happen 3 times.


SpaceCat54

as some from europe this was awfull to watch. Does Biden always make so many mistakes while speaking and acting like a Dementia patient?


barelyreadsenglish

Do you know a lot if dementia patients?


SpaceCat54

I do infact yes


afroguy10

As someone from Europe also, I'm aware that Biden has a stutter.


KimchiMaker

He has a speech impediment.


SpaceCat54

has he always had that or is it because of his age?


KimchiMaker

He’s always had a speech impediment. It was worse when he was younger. He’s always been kind of rubbish at speaking. A lot of his oral gaffes are because of it.


Particular-Fly-3643

It’s a bit charming because he’s sharpened his wit to make up for it and has all these funny colloquialisms and snappy comebacks. His age is definitely visible in other areas, though.


KimchiMaker

Oh yeah he’s definitely old. America is whack with all its ancient politicians. Wish they’d start choosing some people in their 30s-50s for President again. But compared to the other option at the last election… he’s leagues above the alternative. It’s just a shame there weren’t better options.


Particular-Fly-3643

Agreed on all points!


n3ws4cc

Always had it


SpaceCat54

Alright thanks. THis was the first time i watched a full speech of his and was suprised by how he talked.


asstrotrash

How can a "balloon" sink to the bottom of Lake Huron, but a massive spy balloon stay afloat off the coast of South Carolina? That shit was heavy and made of something that was not a light a possible to maintain air buoyancy. What a crock of shit.


nomadichedgehog

This is not how material physics necessarily works but I like the spirit of your point coz it’s funny as fuck lol


asstrotrash

Material physics? I think you mean fluid dynamics but good try!


KimchiMaker

They were small and blown up by missiles. Probably turned into confetti, no? The Chinese one was huge.


Attlely

No warheads on the missiles used to down the objects. Plus I’m fairly certain confetti floats, no?


MemeticAntivirus

What's the source on this? I haven't heard that the missiles had no warheads.


asstrotrash

I get what you're saying, but that means the material it was made out of was NOT intended for buoyancy, it was intended for durability or some other function. This means it was meant to be landed, not retrieved in water. Metals and other heavy materials sink, polymers float.


Engelbert-n-Ernie

White House Reporters are such a fucking joke


flavius_lacivious

They are lazy.


intersecting_lines

seriously an embarrassment


TripplBubbl

So let me get this straight... They identified, shot down and recovered debris from a single Chinese spy balloon but can't identify or recover any debris from three separate objects that they claim are likely no more than private domestic weather balloons? Make it make sense


KimchiMaker

How much balloon do you think is gonna be left over after it gets a missile in the face? I’m guessing not much. What would you expect to be recoverable after a balloon got destroyed by a missile? The whole thing being totally shredded seems quite reasonable if they were just smallish research balloons.


swskeptic

Which, if they have been flying around for years now, why did we suddenly shoot down three in as many days? The math ain't mathing


mckirkus

Government: "It's not ET but we don't know what it is" Media: "It's not aliens: Government: "It's not China but we don't know what it is" Media: "China not ruled out"


UAreTheHippopotamus

Maybe I'm grasping at straws here, but I find it somewhat interesting that Biden made it a point to say the intelligence community is telling him it's likely balloons, and that he "trusts them", but he didn't say he personally believes they were balloons nor did he say they were positively identified yet.


cd7k

Interesting they chose not to show us images of these 'likely balloons" to put the public's mind at ease...


MasterChiefX

he was reading directly from the teleprompter, so it's really whatever story his speech writers wanted to spin. I don't think he went off-script a single time except for misreading the teleprompter.


TripplBubbl

I doubt Biden knows shit about fuck to be honest. The guy is barely clinging to life.


HemloknessMonster

Baloons for roswell baloons for now i hope aliens burn us


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As a Swede, I’m starting to believe USA is, IN ONE WAY, a dictatorship. Their way of keeping control of the population is lying and not violence like traditional dictatorships.


J_Babe87

We're 100% an Oligarchy and have been for a while, lots of people still in denial somehow though.


Warmso24

I’d say more of an oligarchy. The government has really gotten good at media diversions and propaganda.


L3thargicLarry

kinda lame, but i found it interesting how he outlined that he will continue to order objects shot down from now on. the precedent has been set


J_Babe87

That was my takeaway. Basically setting it up so nobody is surprised when they start shooting a bunch of stuff out of the sky.


absolutelynotagoblin

>kinda lame, but i found it interesting how he outlined that he will continue to order objects shot down from now on. the precedent has been set kinda lame, but i found it interesting how he outlined that he will continue to order ~~objects~~ **benign party balloons** shot down from now on. the precedent has been set Fixed that for you.


Engelbert-n-Ernie

It was a load of shit but pretty damning to openly declare it’s not China and they still can’t identify it or it’s origins. This is definitely not nothing.


SabineRitter

Completely agree. The number of options is decreasing.


MWXDrummer

Tensions with China are already too high as it is. Part of me feels they’re trying to cool the fire a little bit after the first spy balloon by not declaring it’s them.


MasterChiefX

I haven't watched too many of Biden's conferences, but he literally just read from the teleprompter, didn't confirm or deny ETs, then laughed off the bullshit questions from the press and walked away. He seems pretty distant, but I guess he's always like that.


Reptillian24

My grand mother is 97 years old and speaks/articulates her thoughts much clearer than president Biden. It seems like he has a legitimate cognitive decline issue. Not trying to be demeaning bc it’s kind of sad.


wydtim

He’s always had issues with stuttering. This is just how the guy talks


CoffeeWithMoreBleach

I stutter too when reading from a promoter, keep in mind what you watched was entirely manufactured.


Energy_Turtle

It is sad. Watching him on stage like this gets me every time. He has no business being in this job. He should be retired and relaxing with what little time he has left.


n3ws4cc

Brother in christ he has a stutter. Had it since childhood. How people still don't know this and are weirded out is beyond me. We've had the man for 2 years.


[deleted]

Please find a video of him as VP where he completely loses the word and spouts out a bunch of gibberish. Or when he completely forgets what he was talking about and just says nonsense. I can find a number of videos showing the latter. How people go to bat for him and defend him endlessly just because he’s a capital (D) is beyond me Lol at people downvoting me. He’s been in the public eye for DECADES, including serving as Vice President. If he has had these issues his whole life, find me similar videos from 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago.


Angry_Citizen_CoH

Watch him during the VP debate from 2012. He was lucid, articulate, and well-composed. Dude makes no sense when he talks now.


n3ws4cc

Just go back to r/conspiracy or whatever extremist hub with that shit come on, we're here for other things


Dignifiedgiraffe

Not gonna deny he’s old as fuck. But he’s always been like this — even in his 40s.


Fiveleopard

to be honest I feel like they'd have a top ranking general or bill nelson or someone other than biden drop the "we are not alone" news. I can't imagine him delivering that speech lmao


TwistedAndBroken

Play along, but how would you make that announcement? Through some crazy scenario, you've find yourself in front of camera streaming to a few billions people worldwide. The aliens are waiting peacefully, lined up just off screen for their turn to speak. Aaaand go?


dongballs613

He probably would've answered a couple if it wasn't for that Fox News moron shouting about Hunter.


dan986

So did he only address the spy balloon and not the other objects at all? I was listening but multi-tasking so I might have missed it but if that’s the case that just makes it weirder. I thought he’d say it was a Pico balloon or something but at least explain wtf they shot down.


kmoody9

I fly drones for work and have to get certified every 2 years (knowing airspace regulations, how to contact ATC, FAA regs, etc). After all of that, drones are still limited to 400' AGL. You mean to tell me people are just sending shit up tens of 1,000s of feet without having to notify the FAA/gov't?? As Bismarkee said "DONT GIMME DAT"


MemeticAntivirus

And they can't figure it out. Try pointing a laser at an airplane sometime, however... (don't) and the FAA will crush you. Seems a little hard to believe.


DocMoochal

They said they likely arent a foreign nations or for surveillance, they're likely for commercial or scientific purposes. So yeah I guess people just flying objects without the proper paper work and what not is no big deal guys.


cd7k

Strange they didn't put our minds at ease by showing images of the "probably drones/balloons".


crasoul

And not coming forth to claim it..


swskeptic

If this was commercial or scientific, the groups behind that would have come out and been like "hey were suddenly missing a balloon", but nope, not a peep.


m_friedman

Lol, the reporters almost were trying to screw that up. He came back for questions and they completely fooled. Also what was that question about Xi it’s almost like it was a CCP Plant.


are_videos

so they bumped up the radar thresholds or whatever, still would like some pics lol


justlose

So did president Biden just let us know US pilots don't recognize a research balloon or a commercial one?


Groundbreaking_Bad

Wow, did he really side step the press by telling them they weren't being polite??


Texuk1

My take is the subject is so sensitive he didn’t want to be off script and was looking for a way out.


SatansLittlePrincess

That was even more disappointing than I expected it to be tbh.


mimavox

He might as well not have bothered.


SatansLittlePrincess

It could have been a tweet and it would have had the same substance tbh


My_Penbroke

Those reporters should know they won’t get any answers if the shout over each other. The president should know that people have questions and should not give off the sense that he is annoyed with people for asking them. Pathetic all around.


LLAPSpork

What…the…fuck… Fucking LOL. He just walked away. I’m a dem but Biden is so wrong for this job. I swear my 88 year old grandpa is more agile. The way he walked away…just yikes all around.


Americasycho

It was garbage all around. He can't formulate a sentence even when read off a prompter. Not a chance of disclosing anything, but lets his handlers prop up a recreational balloon story, then laughs and shuffles away from the press; questions be damned. If truly otherworldly; when more of "their" crafts are shot down then I wonder how long before a most violent receipt is given?


nwprince

So the plan is to add more regulations for launching unmanned aircraft for commercial/research purposes BUT isn't there already heavy consequences for not alerting the FAA to the launch of an aircraft above like 400 feet? Edit: Also the three non-balloon objects were noticed near DOD restricted areas! Surely there are already rules and regulations disallowing commercial/research in the airspace in the vicinity of those sites!!


thebigrace

Oof. That was a BAD look for Joey B.


Pooker100

I wasn’t disappointed because I didn’t except anything.


Bitter_Coach_8138

It’s 100% alien or foreign tech


84121629

Wow look at the brain on this guy


jamelza11

Motherfuckers we just got Roswelld !! Woooo!


Significant_Spite_64

Short recap of what the president said anyone?


SabineRitter

The objects are not from a foreign nation. That leaves secret private tech or 👽


cd7k

> The objects are not from a foreign nation. Wonder how they came to that conclusion? An image of a drone with a confederate bumper sticker would help seal the deal.


JoshMFBurger

"Give me a break, man" lol. Seriously. Was funny.


[deleted]

Nothing. Regulations in airspace and that’s that.


PhoenixNightingale90

He said “give me a break man!”


rfdavid

He said “ladies and gentleman, I ain’t saying shit” and walked away.


Intrepid_Following_5

Here you go: 💩 You are welcome.