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How hard is it?

How hard is it?

GreatShinobi-Owl

Honestly its pretty frickin hard man. Id say its the hardest out of the Soulsborne series but it also has the funnest, craziest gameplay.


dean9r

Just bought it and it’s downloading. Jumping around with the grappling hook, parrying, and executions looks really cool. I’m giving it a shot.


GreatShinobi-Owl

If you need help comment or message me. I know most enemies weaknesses and items that are useful against them.


olafjb

Is that offer open to any noob? :)


GreatShinobi-Owl

Ya sure, what did you need help with?


lexaprodidntwork

As someone who was not used to parry/deflect, this game annihilated me in the first levels. I think I broke one of my fingers during the Lady Butterfly fight (my first boss) for jumping/evading too much! I would also recommend practicing the Mikiri Counter. Only used that move during the final boss fight but I think it would have made my game a lot easier if I practiced it asap.


Datguyisandog

Personally I found sekiro to be harder than dark souls, other people have said that the game isn’t nearly as hard. If you go through the game as it was intended to be played then I’d say it’s harder than dark souls but if you cheese it then it’s by far the easiest from game


Atijohn

If you compare cheesing through Sekiro with a normal playthrough of Dark Souls, then yeah, it's easier, but cheesing through Dark Souls is way easier than cheesing through Sekiro really.


Datguyisandog

The skip for gyoubu is pretty easy to pull off and now there’s remnants showing people exactly how to do it in the game so they don’t even have to look it up anymore, it can be a little difficult to get genichiro stuck but once he is he can’t do anything, same goes for owl. You get to skip the true corrupted monk’s second stage and easily beat the third stage with sand and firecrackers, regular corrupted monk is even easier, you can cheese the ape easily by simply baiting its poop and leaping grab attacks... need I go on?


Atijohn

Yeah, but in Dark Souls, you can just equip that Zweihander, soak it in a gold pine resin and one-shot Taurus Demon, upgrade it and defeat Bell Gargolyes in three hits, get a bow and stunlock Quelaag for an easy kill, throw 15 firebombs to defeat Capra safely, Gaping Dragon is a joke anyway, same goes for Ceaseless, Iron Golem with Taurus is a joke, O&S becomes a joke with pyromancy, literally everything becomes a joke once you get havel armor, because you can tank everything, and don't get me started on getting the Black Knight's Halberd... ...nEeD I gO oN? Sekiro cheesing requires some preparation, but in Dark Souls you just need to equip that havel set and wreck everything anyway, save for maybe Bed of Chaos, which has a cheese *on the level of Sekiro*


Datguyisandog

Lol, sorry about the “need I go on”, I didn’t mean for it to sound snobbish. The thing that makes sekiro so easy when you cheese it is that every single boss in the game (including most mini bosses) has some kind of easy way to beat it. Even the final boss can be turned into a cake walk, it doesn’t even take any items. The only scenario I can think of where you’d need to go out of your way to prepare is if you want to do the ape skip but you need a video or map showing you where all of the holes you have to jump over are.


Atijohn

>The thing that makes sekiro so easy when you cheese it is that every single boss in the game (including most mini bosses) has some kind of easy way to beat it And how's Dark Souls different?


Datguyisandog

Bosses like pinwheel and moonlight butterfly, while not particularly difficult bosses, don’t have any real ways to cheese them. Kalameet is also quite the bitch to beat even with the cheese.


Atijohn

> not particularly difficult bosses Yeah, and since they are laughably easy, you don't even need to think of a cheese strat, because the only thing you need to do with Pinwheel is to smack him three times and he is dead. Moonlight Butterfly's magic can be trivialized with shields, and it's a completely optional fight anyway. How do you cheese Isshin Ashina by the way? How do you cheese any of the inner bosses? How do you cheese Owl Father?


Datguyisandog

Isshin ashina can be done like this https://youtu.be/WNXZ-k3CEj8 owl (father) can be done like this https://youtu.be/Cc9xeKKVmwM inner genichiro https://youtu.be/Zh7khaaqrIQ inner owl https://youtu.be/TQQB0eup5tA inner isshin https://youtu.be/Vo3uRBfbf7U


Atijohn

The guy in the Owl and Isshin videos literally just fights them normally, which requires learning of the timings of the attacks and executing the deflections perfectly. His Isshin Ashina's strat is pretty timing-dependant too. Again, in Dark Souls it's just go in and spam R1, heal when needed.


dean9r

I see. Thank-you guys, and how are the bosses? would you say they are tougher? (I’ve lost count for how many times I’ve died to Ornstein and Smough, and to Shibata katsuie in Nioh 2)


davefromtemple

It’s much faster than dark souls 1. I’ve beaten souls 1,3, bloodbourne, and sekiro. Honestly found sekiro to be the “easiest”. It’s still very challenging but for me the parrying was easy and broke the game a bit at times. It’s a lot of fun and i highly recommend it nonetheless.


GhostintheSchall

I've also played DS and BB, and this is by far the hardest.


SurataSAN

It is not hard, it is rewarding. You just should understand what game wants from you and adapt. This game is all about pressure and deflecting, also understanding game mechanics/rhythms =) All enemies have some weaknesses, please skip all cheese stuff, it is not fun, just play as you want. After Nioh just remember - dodge is not a key mechanic! Only deflect and counter attacks, then u will dance with all bosses