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AckbarCaviar

someday that baby is gonna come back with league of shadow training to kill Steph cause she gave her up for adoption.


kal_el_diablo

Nah, that would mean everybody else would have to age, which can never happen. That baby is a baby forever.


PurpleMarvelous

Unless they age the baby via magic or whatever other option there is.


Schfooge

The baby will be taken to space by Crazy Jor-El and come back a few weeks later as a 17-year-old,


Bruce_-Wayne

Nah, since Thomas and Jor El had their time to shine, it's time to bring in Martha now


Nirast25

*insert Professor Hulk time travel gif here*


protection7766

Nah, hyper grown so it became an adult in like, 2 years and they did some matrix stuff to program martial arts in its head and used some drugs/bio goop/electric stimulation to build its muscles properly to peak human performance. But this amazing technology will not be used in large scale to basically turn every member of the league into a Batman level physical threat, only Stephs kid...and maybe a couple other villains down the line.


ApprehensiveCourtier

It’s legitimately weird to me that Steph’s Baby hasn’t popped back up again somehow. Probably because the dad is Just Some Rando. Eventually someone will probably figure out a way to make the baby’s Real Dad secretly someone important somehow, and then it’ll come back.


AckbarCaviar

It was Norman Osborn all along!


ApprehensiveCourtier

To quote a flower pot, falling through the atmosphere: Oh no, not again.


protection7766

*activates mind bleach*


Seren-01

because the baby was around before new 52, since their universe became new 52 the wirters decided to erase that from steph due to many reasons, i think one of them being the fact she was under age at the time as well.


NoctSora

The Batgirl 2009 series wanted to address it but it got cancelled before doing so.


tired20something

All she needs to do is show the baby a picture of Dreadlock Dad and they will understand that there was no way they could have ever been a family.


Fickle_Chance9880

“Huh. Welp. I’ll just show myself out.”


Xhenay

And the best part is that am on board for it. ![img](emote|t5_2qlmm|4795)


[deleted]

Nightwing needs to beat up Tarantula after she raped him.


NoctSora

Unless you're Devin Grayson who claims it wasn't........


[deleted]

Dick was crealy saying no and Tarantule did not give a damn. Isn't rape literally a non-consensual sex? Dick did not agree to have sex with Tarantula so he was raped by her.


NoctSora

Exactly but Devin Grayson kept denying it wasn't and said he was having an affair.......


jayseedub

Devin. Grayson. Should. Not. Be. Allowed. To. Write. Anymore. Comics.


UsidoreTheLightBlue

I don’t think she is.


jayseedub

She did Black Widow and Widowmakers recently, and I think she's doing some other stuff for Marvel.


warriorcrazy3

She unfortunately wrote the Jon Kent pride issue this year :(


UsidoreTheLightBlue

I cannot believe DC of all places let her back on a book, even a single issue.


Fireshot-V

I'll do you one worse, for the celebration of Robin's 80 years, she wrote a story with Dick and the Titans. They chose her instead of Dixon, Tomasi or even Higgins.


UsidoreTheLightBlue

That’s absolute insanity. I just looked up that book, they had Winnick on it too. Id rather shower with a bear than read something by Winnick or Grayson.


disabledinaz

Dixon had a story in the 80th as well.


warriorcrazy3

Me either 😭 When I saw her name in the pride stories I got so sad, especially since beside her story, it was a FANTASTIC issue


Qbopper

oh THEY'RE the one who wrote that?? it all makes sense now


HotClock4632

Wait didn't she wrote one for Jon Kent? Or was that someone else?


disabledinaz

She did a Jon/Damien story in this month’s Pride Special


protection7766

Oh neat, the bot hasnt activated yet.


Mrgoodtrips64

It won’t because the word wasn’t on its own, it was attached to “Jon/“ without a space.


protection7766

Oh so it doesnt recognize his name was even said, let alone misspelled. Gotcha. Makes sense


Ithurtsprecious

My conspiracy theory is that she was selected intentionally to get some heat off Tom Taylor for his SOKE writing that gets shat on every issue but still manages to sell.


warriorcrazy3

She did 🤢


Julian7832

"Prides been a party for decades" 🤮


warriorcrazy3

every line in that issue was just…🤢


Julian7832

Let's not forget damian listing all the ways he could attack the crowd.


HotClock4632

I heard she did Jon really dirty. Like...everyone was shocked


warriorcrazy3

She did! The worst parts of where she had Jon say “Pride has always been a party” and saying that Clark wouldn’t want Superman at pride (???) (also not to mention the complete mischaracterization of Damian, too)


HotClock4632

Superman said that!?? Ayo, what In the fuck! I know for a damn fact superman would've supported the hell out of his Son. Hell, I'm expecting a father and son talk down the line too. Especially with that bait with Lois looking mad because Jon didn't tell her that he was bi.


[deleted]

Wait, she literally made Clark a homophobe?


[deleted]

Imagine if Brad Meltzer after having Dr. Light rape Sue Dibny said that it wasn't rape, it was just Sue cheating on Ralph with Light. He would be fired before blinking an eye.


Lower_Public_2466

He actually did and sent her ass to prison. I just read the wiki. He also said some badass lines while doing it too like about he's the son of Batman or something like that.


Wandering_Apology

4 members of the batfamily have been raped, is that effed up or what?


[deleted]

Bruce, Dick and who were the other two? Tim and Jason?


Wandering_Apology

Yep


InteractionOk9351

Dude I totally forgot she was a teen mom.


cwyllo

That boyfriend? Got a hair cut, changed his name to Bernard and WHO'S LAUGHING NOW STEPH?!


samx3i

Mom with the assist.


NoctSora

It's a great bonding moment when your mom helps you beatup your slimy ex.


ApprehensiveCourtier

That was a real “you had me in the first half” moment and I love it.


protection7766

Its like that "billy, what have you done!" meme and its great.


tired20something

I am also mad at Steph for dating a white guy with dreadlocks.


ApprehensiveCourtier

Maybe he didn’t have dreds when she was with him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


tired20something

Dreads in a white guy is more of a personality trait than an aesthetic choice. He had a White Guy With Dreads soul.


ApprehensiveCourtier

Damn, yeah, true. Sorry, Steph…I tried.


protection7766

Yeah I gotta agree. Definitely a case of "what did you even SEE in this guy" moments. But I guess that happens a lot.


k3ttch

[Yup. ](https://youtu.be/TcK0MYgnHjo)


NoctSora

I never thought I'd see people defending a statutory rapists who is getting his ass kicked but incels and "men's rights activist" continues to surprise me.........


Vord_Loldemort_7

Yeah seriously. Stay classy, Reddit.


hoopyscoops

Womf


HrMaschine

tf happend to his eyes before steph beated him up


iqbalides

She kicked him in the balls. That's why his eyes are like that.


HrMaschine

ahh didn‘t notice it. the womf covers her whole leg


iqbalides

Yeah I didn't notice at first either. Bit weird of them to cover it up like that.


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

He smokes a lot of pot.


qaQaz1-_

Never trust a white guy with dreads


Misterwuss

Good for her. I'm honestly kinda upset it wasn't bloodier. I'm not saying kill the guy (at least not a non-murderous member of the batfamily doing it) but like, knock out teeth. Break bones. Bloody the nose. That's what he deserves.


Professional-Pin-271

Why is it ok for a highly trained fighter to beat someone? Stephanie was in no danger.


7BitBrian

Physical assault is okay as long as it's a woman doing it. And not only that, but you want it to be even more bloody.


Mrgoodtrips64

I fully support anyone thrashing their rapists, male or female.


7BitBrian

He raped her? Then he deserves prison for sure, but none of that was shown in the images posted. In the images posted it seems like she just attacks a man out of nowhere.


Mrgoodtrips64

Statutory rape. Minors cannot consent.


SnooRegrets8904

Wasn’t he also a minor


lmWithHim

I can’t believe they put violence in my superhero comic!


Pyrotwilight

…uh there was literally nothing to imply the guy was older than Steph (let alone an adult). She’s literally beating him up for basically not caring about her except to have sex.


ProdigyGamer75

I'm confused is it explained in the issue that he is way older? They look the same age. Cus if they are beating him up is kinda unnecessary


ShadowSJG84

Man I hope he's not older than 18.......


Slasherballz98

Maybe the writer couldn’t handled the situation with some maturity instead of this garbage


Afalstein

It's comics. Punching problems in the face is their thing. That's why we love them.


Slasherballz98

I’ve have been reading comics weekly since 1993. I expect more.


quickatone

![img](emote|t5_2qlmm|4792)![img](emote|t5_2qlmm|4792)![img](emote|t5_2qlmm|4792)


Aerialjim

Domestic violence is great when women are doing it /s


Vord_Loldemort_7

Me when a bad guy is punched in a Batman comic (literally unthinkable)


NoctSora

I wouldn't call beating up a statory rapist domestic violence but go on, incel.


SpicyCrumbum

It's perfectly in line with the genre of pulp noir that the entire Batman line of comics come from. Keep crying about fictional characters being stylized, concern troll.


burywmore

Why is she beating him? Was he physically abusive to her? Was he about to attack her?


NoctSora

He's clearly a much older man who took advantage of a 15 year old girl sexually and then abandoned her when he got her pregnant. He then waltz back in just to get her for sex again. He deserves an ENORMOUS ass kicking.


burywmore

You honestly think this way? That resorting to violence when you've been wronged is morally right?


ApprehensiveCourtier

My dude…look where you are. Look at the comics you’re reading. Think about the hill you’ve chosen.


burywmore

It's not a hill. It's teaching a terrible lesson, where a trained fighter beats up an untrained fighter because he done her wrong.


ApprehensiveCourtier

Again…think about where you are.


burywmore

A DC Comics sub? I expect more from my DC heroes and writers.


ApprehensiveCourtier

DC comics, pretty well known for having heroes beat up wrongdoers. Just because you’re sympathetic to the deadbeat doesn’t make this an undeserved thrashing.


burywmore

Any thrashing a far more skilled or powerful person gives to another, when there's otherwise no threat of violence, is undeserved. What do you think all these police brutality protests have been about? Many of those people who have been beaten or killed were wrongdoers.


ApprehensiveCourtier

We’re talking about comics.


Fanraeth

Just about every member of the Batfamily is one of the top fighter on Earth and they regularly ambush far less trained people and beat the crap out of them. It’s pretty much their whole schtick.


Vord_Loldemort_7

You don’t expect superheroes to beat up predators? Who DO you think deserves to get beat up in a superhero comic


Mrgoodtrips64

Have you never read any Batman?


burywmore

Obviously I'm the only one in this thread that has.


Mrgoodtrips64

How’d your pretzel logic arrive at that ridiculous conclusion?


NepowGlungusIII

For this? Yeah, violence is entirely in order.


burywmore

Okay.


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

Yep. It’s cool too.


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Vord_Loldemort_7

But preying on a teen isn’t?


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

I am morally awesome.


SpicyCrumbum

Keep crying as you worship vigilantes and break the rules on being a jerk.


NoctSora

You really want to die on the hill of defending a creep? Really?


burywmore

I'm not defending the creep. You think it's okay to kick someone's ass for this? Damnit..... I'll use the "if the situation was reversed" trope. What if the genders were reversed? If it was Tim who had been treated like this by an older woman? Would him beating her up when she comes back looking to hook up be the appropriate response?


Callibrien

“The hammer of Justice is unisex” -Batman


SpicyCrumbum

What if what if good fucking lord you reductionist, this is fiction. It's literally a power fantasy. You aren't even understanding what form of art you're consuming gleefully.


Vord_Loldemort_7

If an adult woman manipulated and had sex with a teenager? Yeah, she deserves to get punched. You didn’t do anything clever there


DarkAlex06

Well it wouldn't make any sense, for one thing, 'cause assuming he's a cis guy Tim couldn't get pregnant, so he would have no reason to beat her up.


burywmore

So it's the pregnancy thing that gives the right to resort to immediate physical violence? Okay. Just trying to figure out the twisted morality here.


DarkAlex06

I mean. The guy's an older dude taking advantage of a younger woman who got pregnant with HIS baby, something which he was obviously aware of and apparently gave no shits about, and then abandoned her. He later comes back, pretends the whole 'abandoning you' thing never happened, and tries to get back with her, but only when he finds out she's not pregnant anymore. I feel like he deserved it, honestly, and it's not like he got any permanent damage as far as we can see. It's not like she beat him to the point he had several broken bones. I wouldn't be defending him or trying to make Steph out to be the bad guy here.


Mrgoodtrips64

I think resorting to violence when you’ve been raped is okay, yes.


Julio_B_Kreapin

Because it's a superhero comic. BAM POW WHAM


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE MENNNNN!


burywmore

It's not about the men. It's about being able to solve personal problems without resorting to making an unprovoked attack against someone, especially someone you have many times the skill than.


SpicyCrumbum

Then write your own power fantasy comic book and see what kind of audience it finds. You're applying realism to fantasy and that is as intellectually laughable as complaining about how cartoonish his eyes bulge.


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

Yeah right, Poindexter. Pull the other one, it plays music.


burywmore

Where am I wrong? She freaking sucker punches him, then even slams him again when he tries to get up. He never tries to hit her or threaten her. Is this a joke?


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

I know. It was cool. Maybe comic books aren’t for you. You seem to have a hard time separating fiction from reality.


VTYJ6503

Looks like someone couldn't read the title


MjolnirN7

No but women hitting men is okay for a lot of people. I mean yeah she straight up assaulted the guy for no reason, but you’re not gonna get a lot of support from the masses on this comment.


NoctSora

This isn't r/ the redpill. And for your information not that you care but he's clearly a much older man who took advantage of a 15 year old girl sexually and then abandoned her when he got her pregnant. He then waltz back in just to get her for sex again. He had it coming.


MjolnirN7

Yeah I don’t know what that is and I’m not clicking on it. Dude asked why she initiated a physical confrontation with dude when she wasn’t in danger. That’s it.


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

You know exactly what it is, lol.


MjolnirN7

I can infer from context clues but I don’t know what that shit is. Other terms I don’t know how to use properly include based, poggers, and Uwu. You can check my profile history dawg.


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

Great sealioning here too.


MjolnirN7

Don’t know what that means either.


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

That kinda comment is what makes it such good sealioning.


MjolnirN7

Aight bruh. Have a good one.


Vord_Loldemort_7

What the fuck


Vord_Loldemort_7

“For no reason”


MjolnirN7

Homie if you think it’s cool to assault people when you’re not in physical danger that’s on you and however you were raised. I saw a dude a few weeks ago that used to mess with me in high school, I managed to not assault him because I’m a normal person.


Vord_Loldemort_7

He’s a statutory rapist I genuinely can’t believe you’re having trouble grasping this


MjolnirN7

And I’m just amazed that you lack the empathy of a normal person and can’t perceive nuance in situations. What he did was bad, yes. But she was in no immediate danger and chose to assault him. Also bad. Two things can be bad. Welcome to life.


Vord_Loldemort_7

🤓


SpicyCrumbum

The great news is none of this is real, it's a power fantasy that reasonable adults acknowledge is not real. Why not argue about the legality of Sylvester and Tweety assaulting each other while you're at it?


MjolnirN7

This is a horrible comparison and comment.


burywmore

Yeah, I don't get this at all in this case. I hate and loath the incels on Reddit that complain about every slight perpetrated against men by women, but this is terrible.


NoctSora

You're kidding right?


burywmore

What am I missing? I'm serious. She's a trained fighter and is in no danger. Why is she beating him up?


Mj-dynamite

You cannot be serious with this. Youre either dumb or trolling.


Wowbagger_Ultrajax

It’s textbook sea-lioning.


burywmore

She freaking kicks him in the balls with zero threat or danger. I can't believe I'm having to explain this. How is that justified?


Mj-dynamite

1. He had sex, impregnated her, left her, made her go through the pain of pregnancy alone... then she had to abandon the child, because her life was too dangerous and he was gone so he wouldn't be able to take care of the kid. Then he comes back: no remorse, no nothing. He deserved the ballkick and everything else, doesnt matter if he was a threat then or not. 2. While I couldn't find his exact age, I saw a few people mention the fact that he was over 18. She was 16. That is not having a sexual relationship, that is quite literally rape. And if that was the case - he could have gotten run over by a drunk driver in the next panel and I probably would have been happy that a bitch like him got what he deserved.


NoctSora

She was 15 actually when she was pregnant which makes it worse.........


SpicyCrumbum

You're reading a comic derived from the pulp era and this is what people did in pulp books to people who are creeps. It's thematically on point for the style of power fantasy you are reading. Don't like the tropes? Read a different genre. This isn't real and your dismissal of stylization is as troubling as arguing the legal ramifications of assault between Sylvester and Tweety Bird.


thatonefatefan

Age aside, a quick search seems to indicate that he didn't "abandon her after getting her pregnant", or at least, the way the title formulate it is misleading, he 1. didn't know that she was pregnant (well, this page kinda shows it) and 2. left gotham for very legitimate reasons. Still a loser, but assuming that he's below 18, he definitively didn't deserve to get beaten up.


Professional-Pin-271

Why is it ok for a highly trained person to hit a guy on the nuts? Black Canary is all ways punching and kicking Green Arrows’s mini arrow.


Vord_Loldemort_7

Dean is a statutory rapist. As for Canary hitting Green Arrow, that’s always been fucked up to me and I hope that stops soon


GreenRangerKeto

You have a point but That's different they are married and have a safeword.


Afalstein

Why does it make a difference if they're a highly trained person? You don't need a lot of training to hit a guy in the nuts.


Mrgoodtrips64

Why is it everyone who defends the scumbag does so by making a point about how trained Steph is? Why does that make even the slightest difference?


Professional-Pin-271

Excessive force. It’s ok to kick scumbag women on the pussy then.


Mrgoodtrips64

Yes. If Grayson or Bruce kicked their rapists in the twat I’d be all for it. Gender attitudes are irrelevant.


Professional-Pin-271

Stephanie wasn’t raped. Consensual.


Mrgoodtrips64

Statutory rape is still rape. Children cannot consent.


Professional-Pin-271

How old was Dean during the act?


KennyKungfukilla

Alt title: Loser beats up loser who got the former loser pregnant.


NoctSora

Steph isn't a loser.


KennyKungfukilla

Yeah, yeah she is.


NoctSora

Nice joke. You are aware she is a 15 year old girl who got taken advantage of by an older dude right?


KennyKungfukilla

I really don't care. Trash character, sucks she was sexually assaulted but that doesn't make her not a loser.


GreenRangerKeto

Did he press charges for physical assault and abuse? I mean if she acted like that during there relationship then he was more then justified.


NoctSora

Are you seriously trying to make HER the abusive one? This is a older dude who took advantage of a 15 year old for sex, got her pregnant, abandoned her and is coming back wanting to screw her again. Get out of here, incel.


GreenRangerKeto

If you read the comments all we have is the context of the page. Nice name calling by the way I hope that makes you feel better about yourself.


Afalstein

He was trespassing. I'm guessing she never did this during their relationship, or Dean would've been a LOT more careful approaching her.


GreenRangerKeto

They have a prior relationship with no restraining order. She established a conversation, had an open gate, and didn’t request him to leave. That’s not trespassing


Vord_Loldemort_7

Saying “What are you doing here?” makes it not trespassing? The fuck?


GreenRangerKeto

From a legal sense yes.


warriorcrazy3

This is a power fantasy comic. My dude. Are you trying to have legality in a power fantasy comic? Really?


Vord_Loldemort_7

That’s a polite way of saying “get the fuck out of my yard you’re trespassing”


ThatSecondPerson

Is there context